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Posted by npilk 5 hours ago

Facebook is cooked(pilk.website)
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bramhaag 5 hours ago|
My feed has devolved into AI generated propaganda with a scary amount of genuine support. Police brutality against minorities and other politically relevant groups; all fake but with hundreds of seemingly real replies cheering them on.
ge96 5 hours ago||
Maybe the replies are also fake to drive the narrative

It is interesting where you go on (eg. echo chambers) but like 9gag for example is super racist and doesn't seem to be moderated.

Like TruthSocial do real people actually use that? Crazy

efilife 4 hours ago||
They are not fake. I've also seen these and checked commenters' profiles. Real people, in the 35-50 age range.
ryandrake 3 hours ago|||
How can you tell by just looking at their profile? Bots have for over a decade been able to generate a profile with a real looking picture (usually just scraped from the web) and a realistic sounding bio.
ge96 2 hours ago||
Tangent but reddit allows people to hide their post/comment history which is fine I guess but it's not great for that reason, trying to see if an account is a bot or not. Other than age can't tell anything about that account.

I notice more and more accounts use it, particularly the spicy commenters. Which is whatever, I try to stay away from social media now, this is SM here but at least it's more technically oriented/useful.

bramhaag 36 minutes ago||
People can curate their profiles, but not search results. Their posts and comments will still show up if you just search on their user page.
ge96 3 hours ago|||
I wonder if these are the people that cause a ruckus at protests ha
ddtaylor 3 hours ago||
It's mostly all ICE engagement bait on both sides. In the same way we are all guilty of upvoting an article without reading it, they will amplify their ideas or viewpoints by signal boosting a video. The same way an echo chamber forms around a questionable news site that is often proven wrong or lying. The source doesn't matter anymore only the numbers.
ieie3366 3 hours ago||
You are just not the target audience. Meta is a trillion dollar company and their algos are extremely optimized.

It probably detected your gender (male), age, location, social graph, as a combination of all these that you would be interested in AI-generated softcore pornography. And for the average user with your stats, they absolutely are.

Of course, nobody at Meta hardcoded their algorithm to do this: it’s just naturally found out the kind of content a person with your specs loves. Sorry, OP

cogman10 3 hours ago|
yup.

I get a couple of thirst traps in my feed, but not many. I definitely get a metric ton of AI shit.

The stuff I'm actually following, friends, etc is pretty diluted.

dathinab 5 hours ago||
> (I dunno, maybe those are all bots too.)

I wish,

but from personal experience I'm afraid quite a bunch of them are creepy old guys which have no idea how creepy they have become(1), because they are in a bubble with mostly only other creepy old guys

(1): Like I don't mean people which always have been creepy or "secret/hidden" creepy. But people which through increasingly more "not caring" and echo champers/ad bubbles and similar twisting their world perception/social feedback loop have become increasingly more creepy in the last 10-20 years.

sva_ 3 hours ago|
In German we have a word for old people who post with their real name under such posts: Klarnamensexboomer ('real name sex boomer')
gniv 5 hours ago||
I login for the groups. Some private groups have a ton of useful info that's well organized, plus helpful folks that are eager to answer questions.
reddalo 5 hours ago||
And that's almost as sad as Discord "forums". It's useful information that's completely siloed out from the public web.
unsharted 3 hours ago||
On a positive note, posts from groups I was interested in have been targeted at my feed by the algorithm. Still not public, but least there is some sort of exposure to "passers-by"
JKCalhoun 5 hours ago|||
(I know, frying pans and fires) I started a Google Group as an alternative to a Meta group that I don't want to need Mata to participate in.
fusslo 5 hours ago|||
local town offices mostly use facebook for news and events.

I signed up in 2023 after not using it since 2008. I can't believe how bad the marketplace feature is compared to craigslist. It's trying to get me to keep coming back and serve me different ads. I just want to see all the local ads that match my search!

ks2048 4 hours ago||
Groups and Marketplace seem to be the main genuine uses in many non-US countries.
wincy 5 hours ago||
Facebook messenger is so annoying to use too! My extended family group chat is there, but I had to turn off notifications because Facebook realized I only engage there and started serving me stories and updates from the messenger app as notifications! Right this second opening messenger it shows a “4” in the upper right, assumably with garbage notifications about things I don’t care about “happening” on Facebook. Luckily if something important actually happens my family knows to text me, so I read the group chatter at my leisure rather than being interrupted randomly.
fer 2 hours ago||
I started laugh reacting at Russian propaganda and now all I get is Russian propaganda, literally half of my posts are boomers, shills and people from "non-aligned" countries falling for the Russia stronk/based west evil/gay meme, and Russian embassies and consulates non-stop DARVOing. But before that it was indeed a constant flurry of thirst traps, ragebait, etc. I only keep using it for a couple of well moderated groups.
TrackerFF 1 hour ago|
Yeah, this is a major FB trap.

If you interact in any way with propaganda accounts, even just look too long at the posts when they first randomly pop up, they've target locked you.

I'm a liberal dude. 90% of the political content I get on both FB and Insta is far-right propaganda, sprinkled in with some typical brocasters.

No amount of "Not interested" will make it go away, either.

drivebyhooting 3 hours ago||
> So long Facebook, see you never, until one day I inexplicably need to use your platform to get updates from my kid's school.

This part here kills me. I’ve also been forced to engage in the Zuckerverse. I hate WhatsApp.

aero142 3 hours ago||
Instagram is gone as well. Everything is fake in different ways. If the video isn't ai generated, then it's influencers acting out a scenario they think will get engagement. I realized that when it's a real video, there is a caption that says some scenario is happening, but there is nothing in the video that shows that is real. I think people are just reposting videos with different captions and testing out whatever invented scenario make the video have the most views.
mgiampapa 5 hours ago||
Social media is mostly about what you make of it and how you interact to find value. This is the same in Twitter, TikTok, FB, Instagram, even LinkedIn.

If you don't interact with the product, you get lowest denominator crap.

AceJohnny2 5 hours ago||
This is not true for the major social media sites that control the algorithmic feeds. (Facebook, Xitter, Reddit, YouTube...)

While you may be able to add a small bend to the feed, it's really 90% in their power, not yours.

I'm looking at Facebook "Home" feed. Funny how they added a separate "Friends" feed, the original purpose of the site, that's not the default.

mgiampapa 2 hours ago|||
IDK, I still find my Facebook and Instagram feeds very topical and useful to me, so I keep using them. I also curate aggressively, have a wide variety of interests and a few hundred close connections. It could be that I am just fitting into what the algo is steering to, but I don't get the low quality stuff that OP is complaining about.
Dr_Birdbrain 1 hour ago|||
For Reddit, you can select an option so that it only shows you things from subs you follow. Dramatically improves the experience!
zadikian 5 hours ago||
Was curious what my abandoned FB shows if I log in now. Mostly posts from groups I joined ages ago that are surprisingly still active, some random local news articles, and ads for restaurants.
HoldOnAMinute 5 hours ago||
I used to run the Facebook page for a church-affiliated children's summer program associated with a minority group.

I accidentally switched to that account the other day.

The feed was the most right-wing, Fox News crap you could imagine!

mgiampapa 2 hours ago|||
I am both strongly pro 2A, and extremely liberal. Sometimes it gets things wrong, but I just use the feedback buttons and snooze content I don't agree with and it remarkably stays mostly on track for me.
ryandrake 3 hours ago|||
I have a very sweet elderly friend of the family who only uses Facebook for church-related stuff, and since I'm "the tech guy" she asked me to look at her facebook and help her understand why she sees so much Trump, right-wing, hateful, violent, "Nazi-adjacent" (interestingly never -overtly- Nazi) stuff in her feed. I didn't have the heart to try to explain to her demographic bias, revealed preferences, and overlapping group interests, so I just said it's probably a software glitch in Facebook.
sunir 5 hours ago|
We lost the Internet to AI. Just accept it. It's bots talking to bots about bots.
fullshark 5 hours ago||
You just need to find a smaller walled garden that can be tended, and not care deeply about having a massive audience and you can still find interesting conversation.
ASalazarMX 4 hours ago|||
I've seen many Lemmy communities die because their creators abandoned then when they didn't grow fast into thousands of members. This fast growth fixation is so pernicious, if anything web forums and Reddit showed us, is that small communities are higher quality than big ones. Communities in the thousands require a lot of moderation effort to remain high quality.

Enjoy your small circle of internet strangers sharing a common interest, you don't need to become viral.

jjulius 4 hours ago|||
The gardens that need the most tending, and that will have the most impactful rewards for individuals and communities as a result of said tending, exist in meatspace. Stop searching for walled gardens on the internet and focus on whatever is around you wherever you are. Stop using "More social media but different this time!" as the solution to broken social media.
weregiraffe 5 hours ago|||
Facebook is not the Internet.
ASalazarMX 4 hours ago||
But AI slop is not limited to Facebook. It really is all over the Internet, it dominates entire topics in search engines.
cat5e 5 hours ago|||
I will never roll over for the lizard man
chistev 4 hours ago||
Don't you use WhatsApp?
amatecha 3 hours ago||
maybe the centralized, corporate-owned web, but not the internet... at least, not yet...
AlexandrB 3 hours ago||
If anything the open internet seems worse. Every google search for some anodyne home maintenance task returns hundreds of AI-generated slop "guides" with affiliate links. YouTube is the last refuge for real information on this kind of thing. Coming across a human-written guide on the open web is increasingly rare.
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