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Posted by saeedesmaili 16 hours ago

I built Timeframe, our family e-paper dashboard(hawksley.org)
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rsl1 15 hours ago|
Very nice, looks great
idontwantthis 11 hours ago||
This is a cool project and I know hacking is good in and of itself, but I wanted to share that my family and I use a whiteboard on the fridge and a paper calendar to great effect. It brings us closer to each other while keeping us from missing appointments and events, and allows us to leave messages for each other to be viewed in slow time.
sublinear 12 hours ago||
> There are still several data sources I fetch directly outside of Home Assistant. Once HA is the sole source of data, I’ll be able to have Timeframe be a Home Assistant App, making it significantly easier to distribute.

Yes, please distribute this as an HA app. I can't wait to see that.

preisschild 13 hours ago||
Which OLED screen is shown in the "A more reliable approach" paragraph?
hawksley 13 hours ago|
It’s the Dell Venue: https://youtu.be/eTFkE9yjfoc
preisschild 2 hours ago||
Thanks!
greatgib 12 hours ago||
When you think about it, it is crazy to think that the world is spending thousands of billions on AI stuffs, but still we haven't yet any affordable big size epaper display.

It could change a lot of things in the world, especially regarding the power consumption of most commonly used screens for a lot of signage everywhere. But not that much company looks like to be interested in developing the field.

I think that a few years a go, a lot of possible innovation were blocked by a few aggressive patents. I don't know if it is still the case.

thaumasiotes 3 hours ago||
> It could change a lot of things in the world, especially regarding the power consumption of most commonly used screens for a not of signage everywhere.

There's something I don't get about common e-paper displays.

I have a Remarkable, and it's great. The battery life is also supposed to be great. It can last for months while the Remarkable is turned off.

If the Remarkable is on, it won't last. All the battery will drain away. You have to babysit it carefully, or this is what will happen, and the next time you want to use the Remarkable, it will be dead and you'll need to charge it first.

For some reason, if left idle, it will enter a "sleeping" mode. The screen shows whatever was on the screen, with a little bar overlaid telling you that it's sleeping.

Sleeping mode is actually just awake mode. It continues to draw power as if it was on. The only difference is that it stops responding to touches. If you press the power button, it wakes up instantly, because it was already on.

Off mode is different. In off mode, the Remarkable stops drawing power. Also, it erases the screen, instead displaying a full-screen message that the Remarkable is off. You have to manually put it in off mode whenever you stop using it, or all the battery will rapidly drain away. If you press the power button, nothing will happen; you have to press it and then hold it down for two seconds (I measured this) in order to get it to boot up.

To put it into off mode, you have to do the same thing, forcefully holding down the power button while you wait for it to admit that you want it to turn off. This takes four seconds. Then you have to confirm on the screen that yes, you held the power button down for four straight seconds on purpose.

The ergonomics of this are awful. Leaving your Remarkable idle means losing your entire charge; it will never transition from awake-but-pretending-to-sleep to off. Turning it off is a huge pain. It would solve so many problems to just leave whatever was on screen before idle on the screen, and actually turn off.

jeron 12 hours ago|||
>it is crazy to think that the world is spending thousands of billions on AI stuffs, but still we haven't yet any affordable big size epaper display.

why is that crazy? the demand for big epaper isn't really there, but demand for AI has been pretty clear

TurdF3rguson 12 hours ago||
Maybe once AI is doing everybody's jobs we'll all have free time for giant epaper dashboard nook projects.
mcphage 12 hours ago||
Later: ohno
fastball 12 hours ago||
ePaper displays are niche, and worse for most personal and business use-cases compared to LCD et al.

AI is re-structuring entire industries.

misir 11 hours ago|||
> ePaper displays are niche, and worse for most personal and business use-cases compared to LCD et al.

Hence we need more resources for R&D to figure out the shortcomings. LCD didn't pop into existence randomly either. It's not a guaranteed win, but neither AI has proven any realized gains in the majority of industries that gambled on adopting it.

r14c 11 hours ago|||
Well its easy for the 1000 guys who control 50% of the total money supply to tell their CEOs and boards to push AI so they get a good ROI.

Starting an epaper business would involve actual work and risk.

nobody_r_knows 11 hours ago||
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dintech 14 hours ago||
I'd buy this. Good luck with the project.
wangzhongwang 2 hours ago||
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shaklee3 5 hours ago|
I built the same thing and it gets calendar updates from the Google API and weather from wunderground or AccuWeather.
MarcLore 9 hours ago||
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hawksley 7 hours ago||
The Visionect devices can run on battery for about 3 months at a 10-minute update interval. But it's a huge difference to have real-time updates for smarthome data, hence the Mira Pro.
jagged-chisel 9 hours ago||
I’m sure there’s another number to go ahead of those zeroes for the price :-)
someday-46 10 hours ago|
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