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Posted by mikece 7 hours ago

Americans are destroying Flock surveillance cameras(techcrunch.com)
547 points | 363 commentspage 3
reilly3000 5 hours ago||
Doesn’t that just mean Flock makes more money from making replacements?
mrtesthah 5 hours ago||
I'm sure they'd charge the municipalities and private entities for those replacements one way or another, which ultimately decreases the reliability and value proposition of their product.
doctorpangloss 5 hours ago|||
the damage is showing that Flock, from an objective technology point of view, is really quite much more limited in terms of its efficacy than its sellers are leading the buyers to believe.

what good is their platform if it is easily defeated by a guy with a ladder and a hammer?

phendrenad2 2 hours ago|||
"Ah, see, criminals hate Flock cameras. We'll send you a replacement for free, but you should buy two more and point it at that one so you can catch the bastard next time." is how I imagine that goes.
nceqs3 4 hours ago||
All paid for by taxpayers because a few extremists have appointed themselves kings
lm28469 3 hours ago||
They're supposed to serve you, not the other way, and you're supposed to start chopping heads off when they abuse the power you gave them.
ToucanLoucan 6 hours ago||
> Merchant reports instances of broken and smashed Flock cameras in La Mesa, California, just weeks after the city council approved the continuation of Flock cameras deployed in the city, despite a clear majority of attendees favoring their shutdown.

Well who could've seen that coming.

_ink_ 4 hours ago||
Why were those installed in the first place?
apparent 4 hours ago||
Speaking only for areas near where I live, it was in response to a persistent uptick in home invasions. Police can't be everywhere at once, and LPR cameras flag stolen cars and mismatched plates that thieves like to use.
lm28469 3 hours ago||
Harvest data and let the techno fascist state that is slowly emerging figure out a use case later. For potential scenarios: if you like sci fi you can watch minority report, if you like history you can look at central Europe around 1930
ChrisArchitect 6 hours ago||
[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47095134
octoberfranklin 3 hours ago||
I think it's nuts how nobody seemed to care about this mass surveillance tool until it fell into the hands of the red party. "Just keep electing the blue party" is not a convincing security posture.
toephu2 3 hours ago|
License plate readers are hardly mass surveillance.

Why is no one in democratic countries complaining about mass surveillance?

And I mean real cameras (not license plate readers) recording 24/7?

I'm talking about UK, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, etc.

doomslayer999 3 hours ago||
Because we in america tend to value individual liberties in a way that others don't. And yes of course LPR is mass surveillance. Cars should not even have to be registered.
guywithahat 3 hours ago||
Maybe I'm just getting old but I dislike these implicit call to destructive action articles, even if I don't like the surveillance. It is not incumbent upon the public to destroy surveillance cameras, and it's probably a bad sign for society if they are. If you destroy one of these cameras you will probably be arrested, and it will ruin your life. We can elect officials who oppose these cameras, and encouraging people to destroy city property is not the move.
recursive 3 hours ago|
A lot of the people doing it would probably agree that it's a bad sign that it's necessary. And further that most elections have become a false choice, and aren't effective, as they're so far removed from the changes necessary.
palad1n 5 hours ago||
This is my America. Bravo.
dlev_pika 4 hours ago||
A little direct action a day, keeps the fascists away
hackernews682 6 hours ago|
good.
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