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Posted by cleak 22 hours ago

I'm helping my dog vibe code games(www.calebleak.com)
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FarmerPotato 21 hours ago|
Srsly, you need your pet in the feedback loop.

It has to produce a game that Momo wants to play.

Does Momo like to bark at cats? On screens? Introduce a bark sensor as feedback.

Or use a cat. Cats like to swipe at mice on TV. Get a touchscreen and evolve a game for cats.

a96 3 hours ago|
Read that as "you need to pet your feedback loop". And, well, yes.
djrz 22 hours ago||
The future is so disappointing.
jama211 21 hours ago||
What, people like OP doing incredibly creative and whimsical projects like this?
stoneforger 21 hours ago|||
Who is this helping? What is creative about using their dog as a lava lamp?
bigbuppo 21 hours ago||
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wiseowise 21 hours ago|||
Yes. Hyperscalers promised AI and singularity, instead we got millions of programmers on the chopping block, scammers having a field day generating hyper realistic shit (trump playing hokey, anyone?), and projects like these.
cindyllm 21 hours ago||
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xantronix 20 hours ago||
Serious question, outside of the Bay Area, are there therapists whose specialty is in catering to the needs and concerns of developers? Obviously AI therapy is not a serious suggestion here. This is going to be a burgeoning corner of the practice at the US' current trajectory.
zannic 16 hours ago||
Aw Momo's so cute!
GreenDolphinSys 14 hours ago||
Seems you can capture HN's attention by replacing /dev/urandom with random paw mashes.

Really glad the price of hardware and VPSs [0] are going up so people can generate and toss away garbage "games" like this. Instead of, you know, playing with their dog, which is what the dog actually wants.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47120145

deadbabe 19 hours ago||
Will we ever get to a point where LLMs just churn out random apps with no input required and human reviewers just go through the apps picking out which ones might be useful for business purposes and monetizing them?
democracy 19 hours ago|
What? You are not doing it already? Look at this guy...
the_af 19 hours ago||
This is an extremely cute, cool and fun experiment. Kudos.

That said, I wonder: does the dog input matter? It seems this is simply surfacing Claude's own encoded assumptions of what a game is (yes, the feedback loop, controls, etc, are all interesting parts of the experiment).

How would this differ if instead of dog input, you simply plugged /dev/random into it? In other words, does the input to the system matter at all?

The article seems to acknowledge this:

> If there’s a takeaway beyond the spectacle, it’s this: the bottleneck in AI-assisted development isn’t the quality of your ideas - it’s the quality of your feedback loops. The games got dramatically better not when I improved the prompt, but when I gave Claude the ability to screenshot its own work, play-test its own levels, and lint its own scene files.

I'll go further: it's not only not "the bottleneck", it simply doesn't matter. The dog's ideas certainly didn't matter, and the dog didn't think of the feedback loop for Claude either.

alexhans 18 hours ago|
This fun exercise might actually be extremely insightful as a educational vehicle around AI and intent.

It can also help combat the excessive emphasis on any "end to end" demo on twitter which doesn't really correspond to a desired and quality sought outcome. Generating things is easy if you want to spend tokens. Proper product building and maintenance is a different exercise and finding ways to differentiate between these will be key in a high entropy world.

> I'll go further: it's not only not "the bottleneck", it simply doesn't matter. The dog's ideas certainly didn't matter, and the dog didn't think of the feedback loop for Claude either

Absolutely. The scientific test would to put any other signal and look at the outcomes. Brown noise, rain, a random number generator. whatever.

oytis 21 hours ago||
It has to be satire. Cute dog though
wigster 22 hours ago||
goodbye cruel world
jama211 21 hours ago||
Oh come on, what I see here is whimsy and human creativity! Amazing work by OP
wigster 17 hours ago|||
You are, of course, correct. I hadn't even read the article tbh. The vibe word is just causing me to spasm these days. ;-)
keybored 17 hours ago|||
It’s a rube goldberg machine with a mascot.

With a morale of the story.

> If there’s a takeaway beyond the spectacle, it’s this: the bottleneck in AI-assisted development isn’t the quality of your ideas - it’s the quality of your feedback loops.

It’s not this - it’s that.

The shit future comes in many packages.

InMice 21 hours ago||
woofwoof
ayaros 19 hours ago||
So now dogs are going to take my job? What's next? Snails? Rabbits? Wild salmon?
a96 3 hours ago|
Cockroaches. Survivability, fast breeding, low resource needs, quite instrumentable.
_joel 21 hours ago|
Dog vibe coding is great and all, just don't use it for red teaming ;)
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