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Posted by zingerlio 4 hours ago

Nearby Glasses(github.com)
168 points | 65 comments
fusslo 2 hours ago|
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meta-trial-mark-zuckerberg-ai-g...

> Judge Carolyn Kuhl, who is presiding over the trial, ordered anyone in the courtroom wearing AI glasses to immediately remove them, noting that any use of facial recognition technology to identify the jurors was banned.

I am not a believer in Zuckerberg's idea of humanity's future.

Refreeze5224 1 hour ago|
That's because you are intentionally not included in it. Only him and his rich owning class buddies are, the rest of us are only profit-generating NPCs.
burkaman 3 hours ago||
Tried this on a Pixel 9, after allowing permissions the Start Scanning button does nothing, and there's nothing in the debug log. I do like the idea and might try again in the future if it gets updated. Seems like a good candidate for F-Droid instead of Google Play.
Morizero 1 hour ago|
I had to tap the sprocket in the top right and enable Foreground Service to get the button to work
crustaceansoup 1 hour ago||
On my Pixel 9 this overlaps the status bar, and can't be clicked. I worked around that by split-screening it with another app.
cpeterso 3 hours ago||
Can the app run on smart glasses, warning you of other smart glasses users nearby? You might not see the notification on your phone.
piskov 1 hour ago||
That would be like antropic and google crying about china stealing the weights that were originally built by scraping as fuck stolen content :-)
serf 22 minutes ago||
> That would be like antropic and google crying about china stealing the weights that were originally built by scraping as fuck stolen content :-)

do you really see a relation between the two, or are you just willfully 'buying an advertisement' by trying to shape a metaphor from the social qualms that you wish to rebroadcast to people?

in other words, no -- this isn't at all similar to the companies that steal media in order to train models only to complain about similar theft from other companies targetted towards them -- but I agree with the motivation, fuck em; they're crooks...

but don't weaken metaphors simply to advertise a social injustice. If you want to do that, don't hijack conversations abroad.

pavel_lishin 27 minutes ago||
"Glasses detected within 3 inches."
dec0dedab0de 2 hours ago||
This is really neat, I gotta find an android device to try it. Reminds me of the good old days of wardriving with kismet and netstumbler.

I am surprised there isn't an existing BT/BTLE fingerprint table that takes more into account than just what is provided. I would assume each device, or atleast each chipset has subtle quirks that could be used to weed out some of the false positives.

the link in the readme for the identifiers doesn't work because it's relative to the repo, so it is below. I like that they did this, it's so much better than the OUI table for mac addresses, because some companies (cough cisco) keep getting new ones.

https://bitbucket.org/bluetooth-SIG/public/src/main/assigned...

bryanlarsen 2 hours ago||
Currently detects via Meta, Essilor or Snap company ID.

So it won't detect my XReal's. I purposefully bought my XReal now because it feels like they might be one of the last models released without cameras.

But theoretically I could have the XReal Eye attachment on my glasses, and could be taking video through that. I don't, but the XReal user next to me might.

Of course the USB wire hanging from my ear probably makes me look suspicious enough already that the warning probably isn't necessary either way...

catoc 43 minutes ago||
Would renaming to ”Nearby Glassholes” be acceptable as a PR?
btbuildem 1 hour ago||
Sooo technically this is on the edge of legal/not legal, depending on your intent and what the judge had for lunch that day. ID'ing devices without consent is a grey area at best.
magicalist 32 minutes ago||
> Sooo technically this is on the edge of legal/not legal, depending on your intent and what the judge had for lunch that day. ID'ing devices without consent is a grey area at best.

It's looking at the BLE advertising packets that they send out to everybody. The only thing stored is manufacturer ID, not a device ID (which you wouldn't be able to get anyways).

You might as well try to press charges against Apple or Google for putting readable names for nearby devices that aren't yours in the bluetooth pairing screen.

IncreasePosts 2 minutes ago|||
What region has laws that you're not allowed to look at a packet that was broadcast from a device? This sounds prima facie absurd, but I know a lot of strange laws exist out there.
davidee 1 hour ago|||
Filming/video and lookups of people filtered through a corporate data mining operation without their consent should also be illegal. I'll take my chances, thank you.

I recently had to interact with an idiot wearing meta glasses. There should be a mandatory consent requirement AND an "on air" red led.

leephillips 1 hour ago||
Do you mean in the courtroom or anywhere? Because filming and photographing people in public is legal everywhere in the U.S., and no consent is required.
magicalist 46 minutes ago||
> Do you mean in the courtroom or anywhere? Because filming and photographing people in public is legal everywhere in the U.S., and no consent is required.

First, note that "filming" in public is not necessarily legal in every state if you include recording audio of conversations you're not party to.

Second, the GP said should be illegal without consent, so clearly was talking about what's they consider right, not necessarily what is.

But most importantly, "filming and photographing people in public" is also obviously not what the GP was talking about. They said:

> Filming/video and lookups of people filtered through a corporate data mining operation without their consent should also be illegal.

And, actually, extracting biometrics from video of people and tracking them/data mining them without consent is in fact not legal in several states already, and potentially federal law, depending on what they do.

cloudfudge 1 hour ago|||
I'd probably go for "the device explicitly allowed itself to be ID'd by intentionally broadcasting a signal intended for this purpose."
NoahZuniga 1 hour ago|||
> judge had for lunch

This would be a criminal matter, so a jury would have to decide if you're guilty. I feel like you'd have a hard time convincing 12 jurors that you're doing something wrong here.

pluralmonad 1 hour ago|||
Is this legal advice?
driverdan 44 minutes ago||
[citation needed]
mrbluecoat 3 hours ago||
Add satellite imagery, nearby self-driving vehicles / Google maps cars, line-of-sight ring doorbells, peripheral street surveillance cameras, police equipment, people in your proximity with a smartphone camera, and various-purpose drones and then you'll have the perfect paranoia alerter.
nickorlow 1 hour ago|
A big red screen that always says "yes"?
p_ing 2 hours ago||
The dichotomy between the statement in the repo "False positives are likely" and the app message "Smart Glasses are probably nearby" is interesting.
burkaman 2 hours ago||
I don't think those are contradictory. Say each notification has a 90% chance of being true, so it's reasonable to say "probably". After 10+ notifications, each of which was individually probable, it is still very likely that at least one of them was a false positive.
catoc 56 minutes ago|||
“When using the app you are likely to experience false positives, and when the app alerts you, smart glasses are probably nearby.”

Nothing contradictory there.

Even “…when the app alerts you, smart glasses are likely nearby” might be reasonable.

mathfailure 1 hour ago|||
That's not a dichotomy.
scotty79 1 hour ago||
Perceptions of probability:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd....

toomuchtodo 3 hours ago|
https://www.404media.co/this-app-warns-you-if-someone-is-wea...
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