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Posted by randycupertino 7 hours ago

OpenAI resets spending expectations, from $1.4T to $600B(www.cnbc.com)
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vfclists 4 hours ago|
Does this mean RAM is going to get cheaper?
kjkjadksj 5 hours ago||
So does that mean they aren’t buying up all storage production capacity for the foreseeable future now?
agentifysh 5 hours ago||
as I've said previously, OpenAI will be bailed out by US taxpayers. This isnt just another bubble, its a bubble within a bubble.

Seeing the same setup in 2008 and now. Enjoy your subsidized $200/month codex because its going to go up in the future.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46439545

HackerThemAll 4 hours ago||
Ponzi scheme. Scam. I don't trust OpenAI a tiny bit.
surgical_fire 5 hours ago||
It doesn't matter.

Both numbers are fictional. No one really expects any of this to be true.

The people who claim to believe this are simply lying.

Imustaskforhelp 5 hours ago||
From another comment I wrote here but I am gonna paste a quote I found from Intelligent Investor (page 13) from Isaac Newton during the hottest stock of his time in his country, South Sea company.

The great physicist muttered that he "could calculate the motions of the heavenly bodies, but not the madness of the people"

There seems to be a lot of madness happening in the world again as well. A lot of OpenAI claims make no sense except if we consider the world to have gone mad.

The bubbly nature of openAI and just doing whatever they think like doing with 0 regards to anything or everything including financials is a form of madness.

I was reading another comment and actually opened up the Intelligent Investor book to read the quote from there. I highly recommend that book although truth be told that I haven't read more than the first 50-100 pages as I quickly felt like passive investment is a great vehicle personally.

ralusek 5 hours ago||
Has AI transformed the economy radically? Yes.

Will it continue to transform the economy radically? Yes.

Will that translate to the model-makers somehow capturing the entire value of the transformed economy? No.

There were a few key moments that revealed this. When OpenAI initially declared "there is no moat," I wasn't sure whether to believe them. GPT 3.5 and 4 were so much better than the competition, it felt like them saying that they had no moat was some sort of attempt to avoid regulation or scrutiny. But then, lo and behold, Claude and Gemini caught up; there really was no moat.

But up until then, while it was clear that there was no moat around OpenAI, it was unclear if there was a moat around big tech. Mistral was meh. Even Meta's were meh. We also had no idea how much these models actually cost to run. It wasn't until the "DeepSeek moment," and especially once these open source models actually started being hosted on third party services, that it became clear that this was actually a competitive landscape.

And as has already been demonstrated, because the interface for all of these models is just plain language, the cost of switching models is basically non-existent.

random3 5 hours ago||
"there is no moat" usually mean "we have no moat" or "we want you to believe we have no moat". There are always moats, like being directly in front of eyes and thumbs (Apple) or having extensive data (Google) along hardware production capabilities, datacenters, and tons of money.
tiahura 5 hours ago||
Has AI transformed the economy radically? Yes.

AI made “basically zero” difference in U.S. economic growth last year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZHN0-ZNe_4&t=399s

umairnadeem123 4 hours ago|
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chaos_emergent 4 hours ago||
I feel like the dropping cost of using AI doesn't tell the full story - I feel like I'm using agents easily a hundred to two hundred times more than I used chat interfaces. The build-out seems entirely reasonable if we believe that there's going to be a similar increase in usage through the rest of the economy as user interfaces are figured out for these models.
agentifysh 4 hours ago||
its going to get cheaper but the new hardware will still be out of limits for consumers and they need to provide returns on the shares aka wealth transfer from taxpayers + subscribers to shareholders.

but even by some miracle they get to 60% margins are there even enough subscribers to make OpenAI as profitable as Microsoft?