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Posted by jjgreen 11 hours ago

Looks like it is happening(www.math.columbia.edu)
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NooneAtAll3 8 hours ago|
Clickbait title

what would be a better one?

tempodox 6 hours ago||
Convenience dictates that we will be drowning in slop as long as convenience lets us rank academics by number of publications. Publish or perish?
mclau153 10 hours ago||
What is happening?
babblingfish 10 hours ago||
The number of submissions to high energy physics category on arXiv is double this year compared to the historical average. The author hypothesizes the increase is due to papers being written by LLMs.
Sharlin 10 hours ago|||
The end of mediocrity, optimistically speaking. Getting so flooded in mediocrity that the gems are lost in the noise, pessimistically speaking.
bryanrasmussen 10 hours ago|||
It is happening that people can now find out what articles are about by clicking the links to said articles and reading them! It's an amazing world, man. The future!
guerrilla 10 hours ago||
Nope, the site is down.
bryanrasmussen 29 minutes ago||
OK, when I posted it wasn't and it isn't now. but a quote from the opening:

"For a while now I’ve been speculating about what would happen when AI agents started being able to write papers indistinguishable in quality from those that have been typical of the sad state of hep-th for quite a while. Sabine Hossenfelder today has AI Is Bringing “The End of Theory”, in which she gives her cynical take that the past system of grant-holding PIs using grad students/postdocs to produce lots of mediocre papers with the PI’s name on them is about to change dramatically. "

wmf 10 hours ago|||
Human science being replaced by AI I guess.
Sharlin 10 hours ago||
No, human mediocrity being replaced by AI. Mediocrity meaning papers that exist only to increment the magic "num_citations" variable.
blibble 10 hours ago||
the collapse of the signal to noise ratio

in every domain, simultaneously

essentially, the end of the progress of humanity

MoonWalk 7 hours ago||
What is?
lloydatkinson 9 hours ago||
Isn't there a rule about vague titles like this?
selridge 10 hours ago||
Honestly, this is good. We were already in a completely unsustainable system. Nobody had an alternative. We still don’t have one but at least now it’s not just merely unsustainable— it is completely fucked in half.

This kind of pattern is gonna get repeated in a lot of sectors when previous practices that were merely unsustainable become unsustained.

Certhas 10 hours ago||
This has been my optimistic take on the situation for the last two years. My pessimistic take is that social systems have an incredible ability to persist in a state of utter fuckedness much longer than seems reasonably possible.
selridge 9 hours ago||
Yeah and like…who knows if what is coming is better. Maybe big labs cartelize and withdraw from the global publication market (which is already unraveling). Maybe we ban theory and demand all papers be empirical, though that will amount to the same thing: seizure of publication by big actors.

As you point out, human systems are machines for making do. There is no guarantee that dramatic pressures produce dramatic change. But I think we’ll see something weird, soon.

commandlinefan 10 hours ago||
Honestly, publication has been pretty meaningless for a long time, long before AI could generate complete paragraphs. "Publish or perish" meant that a lot of human-generated slop was being published by people who were put in a position of perverse incentives by a "well-meaning" (?) system. There will still be meaningful contributions, but they'll be as rare as they ever were.
ModernMech 10 hours ago||
I mean... I dunno I wish the AI could write my papers. I ask it to and it's just bad. The research models return research that doesn't look anything like the research I do on my own -- half of it is wrong, the rest is shallow, and it's hardly comprehensive despite having access to everything (it will fail to find things unless you specifically prompt for them, and even then if the signal is too low it'll be wrong about it). So I can't even trust it to do something as simple as a literature review.

Insofar as most research is awful, it's true that the AI is producing research that looks and sounds like most of it out there today. But common-case research is not what propels society forward. If we try to automate research with the mediocrity machine, we'll just get mediocre research.

seg_lol 6 hours ago||
If someone mentions Sabine Hossenfelder and it isn't to expose her as a rage-bait intellectual dark web grifter, then it puts that person in a suspect light.
hxbdg 10 hours ago|
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