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Posted by ubasu 7 hours ago

The Misuses of the University(www.publicbooks.org)
105 points | 74 commentspage 2
markus_zhang 6 hours ago|
It is just part of the establishment. When the establishment withered it withered with it. It’s just a symptom of a larger, deeper problem.
mandevil 6 hours ago|
Not just that the establishment, but the entire educational complex, from the large research universities like JHU to the community colleges, were built around a 1950s-1970's American economy and the society that supported that. And now that that is gone, what happens to all of the universities? They've been just as corrupted and degraded as the rest of it. My wife and I were talking last night about how Disneyland lines are the perfect metaphor for what has happened to American society.

From the 1950's to the 1990's there was basically no way to avoid standing in the lines, everyone was in it together and you just had to stand in the lines. Then in the 1990s they added FastPass and you could, if you were clever and planned a bit, skip some lines but you were still going to be standing in lines with everyone else, and they were free and reasonably fair process. Then in the 2010's they started to do book ahead FastPass and if you were staying in a hotel on site you could book all the good times for all the rides, to try and encourage hotel stays. And now with Lightning Lane's they are incentivized to make the line process so onerous to get you to fork over $25/person/ride to skip them. And that's where we are today: an enshitified product that is designed to give a good experience to the very wealthy, while making it worse for everyone else.

And that's the same path we've gone in entertainment, in housing, in education, in healthcare, in so much of modern American society.

Nicook 6 hours ago|||
The third worldization of the USA continues at pace. Expensive reasonable enclaves for the rich, nothing for the rest.
scuff3d 6 hours ago||||
The community college I went to was doing this same crap. I remember going to the opening of a new arts building that provided less usable space then the building it replaced, and sitting around with all the donors and school administration paying themselves on the back. Meanwhile they didn't have enough room for most of the departments, and the tutoring programs were getting slashed.
markus_zhang 4 hours ago|||
Yeah I can see this enshitification occurs everywhere, not just in Disney land. It is sad. But at the same time it gives me some reflection about my choice of entertainment -- like, do I really need those things? Do I really need Netflix/Youtube/etc. that badly? Should I sit down with my kid, before an offline computer and a paper manual, and program in QBASIC together, or run some typing games altogether, just for fun?
mghackerlady 1 hour ago||
please teach your child how computers work

-signed someone baffled a 16 year old stared at me like I had 3 heads when I asked them to open a folder

ajkjk 4 hours ago||
This is all stuff I feel like I was basically aware of but when it's described together it's so... depressing. Ugh.
1024core 6 hours ago||
I misread the title as "The Missuses of the University" and thought this might be the next iteration on the "Real Housewives" franchise: "Real Housewives of the University".

Sorry, didn't mean to distract from the serious topic at hand.

amarant 6 hours ago|
Glad I'm not the only one on here who is apparently illiterate: I did the exact same misread!
nephihaha 6 hours ago||
"Limp signs on the fencing announce the opening of the SNF Agora Institute, by which, he’s informed, the university is “building stronger global democracy."

"In 2017, the institute was endowed with a $150 million gift from a Greek shipping fortune..."

Here is Johns Hopkins' problem in a nutshell. Taking money from billionaire "philanthropists" and global organisations to put an intellectual veneer onto their vested interests. Johns Hopkins has done this in a number of areas.

What kind of "stronger global democracy" would this be? There is no global democracy and no global government, yet. How interested are shipping magnates in democracy as opposed to plutocracy?

zer00eyz 7 hours ago||
> With its 29 cantilevered roof planes and its clerestory glazed windows, it will quickly become the highlight of campus tours. Prospective students will look on with envy. Maybe it will attract more applicants.

I got an ad the other day for a school (a mostly reputable one). They were talking about their award winning dining hall food... and the photos are over the top.

Borrow a pile of money, to help fund a pretty campus, and get a degree with limited job prospects, then wonder why you're drowning in debt for decades seems to be the trendy thing to do.

wrqvrwvq 5 hours ago||
Modern uni has a strong cruise-ship aesthetic.
sevensor 4 hours ago||
I live in a college town. There are now commercial bar crawl operators. They make the T shirt, develop an itinerary, coordinate with the bars. It’s a weirdly infantilized form of debauchery. Can’t frat boys be trusted to make bad decisions on the spur of the moment any more?
busyant 5 hours ago||
my youngest son visited a handful of "fancy" schools near the end of highschool and he thought the whole process was nuts.

he said something like "seems like we're all expected to make a decision based on how nice the weather was when we visited and the architecture... and I don't care about either one."

ohgeekz_com 3 hours ago||
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jaco6 7 hours ago|
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