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Posted by throw0101a 7 hours ago

Dan Simmons, author of Hyperion, has died(www.dignitymemorial.com)
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jabroni_salad 7 hours ago|
See you later, alligator...
BigTTYGothGF 5 hours ago||
I enjoyed the Hyperion books but this got him put on my "never read anything from ever again" list: https://web.archive.org/web/20060424105133/http://www.dansim...
petsfed 3 hours ago||
So he had a pretty good (not perfect) run up until the final 1/3, then had a staggering turn that only the author thought was profound or earned?

That's a man who lived his craft right there.

ses1984 3 hours ago|||
Can you perhaps explain what is objectionable so I don’t have to read the objectionable thing?
weavejester 2 hours ago||
I skimmed it. It's a story about a time traveler warning his ancestor about the horrors of Islam taking over the world. It's pretty yikes.
ZpJuUuNaQ5 4 hours ago|||
>never read anything from ever again

I think it's a poisonous and reductive mindset to have. You can separate art from the character of the artist. If you cared about everything everyone has ever said or done in various stages of their lives, you wouldn't have much left to enjoy or appreciate.

ses1984 3 hours ago|||
On the other hand, there is so so much art out there, I could never hope to consume it all. It’s simple for me to use the character of the artist as a filter. I can break that rule whenever I want, but by default, other things being equal, I would prefer to consume art for pleasure from artists I respect as people.

I do consume art from outside this bubble but more to satisfy academic curiosity than pleasure.

isr 4 hours ago|||
He's referring ... to his "art". Thats what the piece he linked to was a part of.

Its not poisonous nor reductive to decide not to follow an "artist" because his "art" is repulsive.

ZpJuUuNaQ5 4 hours ago|||
"I will never read anything by [AUTHOR] because some things [AUTHOR] wrote are now in my no no list."

Sorry, that just doesn't make sense to me.

weavejester 2 hours ago|||
With the amount of fiction available to read, why give your money to authors who are bad people?
BigTTYGothGF 1 hour ago|||
Did you read the thing I linked? It's on the same level as the Turner Diaries or Fu Manchu or the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

I'm only on this earth for so many years, and the number of words I can shove in my eye holes is finite. Dan Simmons thought it was a good idea to write that, and publish it on his own blog. SF is the kind of genre where you run the risk of getting hit with a big bolus of the author's politics at any time, and why would I drink from a well somebody's already pooped in?

lxgr 3 hours ago|||
Sure, but at the same time it's debatable whether even an artist themselves gets to retroactively reinterpret their own art that way.
fatbird 5 hours ago|||
Same here. It's a fading memory, but the decade following 9/11 really did feature a lot of big brains turning THE COMING CALIPHATE into an existential threat to humanity. Which seems quaint, now.
pragmatic 3 hours ago|||
Interesting.

I don’t think he was particularly kind to any proselytizing religion.

Did you read the Cantos?

BigTTYGothGF 2 hours ago||
You might have missed this part of my post: > I enjoyed the Hyperion books
RemainsOfTheDay 4 hours ago||
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crorella 3 hours ago||
I am sad to know about this, Dan Simmons had a mind blowing amount of imagination and the ability to turn that into interesting and imaginative books that expanded my imagination when I read them.

I loved Hyperion cantos, Illium and then non sci-fi books like A Winter Haunting and Summer of night (which I read in the wrong order lol).

I am also happy to read that he was a great person overall and a great teacher. May he rest in peace.

hyperion2010 4 hours ago||
To me, the Hyperion Cantos present a vision of the future that is incredibly hopeful. The path along the way may at times be bleak, and I find the handling of the TechnoCore to reveal echos of the great chain in a work that otherwise seems to totally reject it. Despite those and a few other shortcomings the Cantos are essential guides for charting our way toward a distant future that is filled with warmth, love, and compassion rather than the cold empty void of hate. To receive such a vision is a rare gift. Thank you Dan. Choose again.
lordleft 7 hours ago||
Hyperion was a wonderful sci-novel. Thank you Dan, for your amazing writing; may you rest in peace.
zabzonk 6 hours ago||
I liked all of the Hyperion/Shrike novels, except when Raul Endymion persistently refers to the heroine/love-interest as "my young friend", or similar phrasing - slightly creepy/boring.

I didn't know that Summer of Night was a series - really liked the original book - will have to investigate.

And, of course, I'm sad he's died.

saltysalt 4 hours ago||
Oh no! I just finished reading Hyperion this week and it has become one of my favorite books of all time. I will treasure my signed copy more so now, RIP.
funemployed 4 hours ago||
The books were incredibly influential on me as a teenager, twenty years later on re-reading the cantos I found some of the specific language around intergenerational romance to be troubling and the focus on it to be a major distraction from the rest of the excellent story.

Praying for his friends and family. RIP

Agingcoder 3 hours ago|
I read the book years ago so might have forgotten - what intergenerational romance ?
stevenwoo 2 hours ago||
Imagine Lolita with a future seer twist. The adolescent girl knows she will be lovers with the adult male main character in a future time and teases him by bathing with him among other interactions while she is still an adolescent. It's teased at in the third book and fourth book until finally it's revealed to be a love story with a power ala The Stars My Destination.
anvuong 4 hours ago||
RIP

Hyperion Cantos is the most influential scifi story I've ever read personally. The first book is a masterpiece, while the rest remains one of the greats.

:(

ChicagoDave 4 hours ago|
Hyperion was the first science fiction book that made me cry.

I love all four books in the series.

I never really engaged in any of his other writing. I have a signed copy of Ilium but never read it.

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