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Posted by speckx 5 hours ago

Leaving Google has actively improved my life(pseudosingleton.com)
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nunez 2 hours ago|
Couldn't agree more. Kagi for search, Fastmail for e-mail, Apple Maps for navigation (though I rely on Google Maps for reviews). Once a realistic not-Office 365 alternative for docs and spreadsheets appears, I'm going to bail on Drive too.

I've used Fastmail for a year now and haven't missed Gmail for a second. It even natively supports iOS push notifications for Mail, something Google refuses to implement.

Same with Kagi. I love having control over my search results, and custom bangs is life.

dandano 2 hours ago||
> My inbox is so much cleaner now, and I patiently await the newsletters I’ve signed up for like a gleeful child waiting for the postman.

The author didn’t go into detail here - but has anyone got a good system to achieve this? Or Is it a specific feature within Proton? I’ve just got mainly the one email and I’ve wanted to change to a better way for ages.

elxr 1 hour ago|
I use gmail, and I've managed to get about halfway there.

Almost every newsletter I get, I'm happy to see, even if I won't have the time to read 95% of them. I get close to no spam (I'd maybe get 1 spam mail every 2-3 weeks).

Just unsubscribe from everything you don't want, use a separate account for services that generate a lot of receipts/notifications, and block as soon as you stop caring about a particular sender. It's doable, just be diligent and be willing to spend some time curating what's allowed to go in.

asim 3 hours ago||
This is very interesting and timely. I've been working on something to replace a lot of addictive or exploitive services we use today but there's some caveats. Will people pay? They pay for Kagi but will they generally pay for other things like news, maps, video, chat, weather, etc. The second question is what's stopping people from really quitting? I get the feeling it's sort of habits that we get stuck with. Even I still use Google. But the mention of brave and knowing brave has a generous free search tier for their api makes me think it's possible to replace Google search. But habits die hard. New habit formation may require an alternative approach hence so many buying into ChatGPT.

One issue I also find with this sort of thing. It's hard to have a longer discussion that leads to building good alternatives. A thread appears, we comment and then it disappears. There needs to be more public discourse that leads to tangible results... To real issues that get solved.

nashashmi 2 hours ago||
He lost me at paying for services. Sure, me in my 40s can afford to pay for a good 200$ worth of services, but when I was starting out in high school and college, I could not even fathom paying for anything. And that was the time I was doing real work in my life, not like now.

I don't know what this allergy to features are. You can disable the features. It is not hard. I remember when they used to force conversation feature down everyone's throats. Some oldies hated it, but when they got used to it they appreciated it. Now they have an off feature.

andrewk17 2 hours ago||
I spent the effort to de-google a several years back and switched to Proton. After years of being on Proton, I recently switched back to GMail.

It didn't really make my life any better. And at this point, I think I see more value in having AI be able to piece together information to serve me up useful information than trying to protect my privacy within email (I couldn't get off Google Photos, it's just too useful).

xnx 3 hours ago||
> After giving them a fair shot, I think I can now honestly say that Brave and DuckDuckGo are better than Google for >90% of searches

I still scratch my head how DuckDuckGo has made people excited for Bing search results in a way Microsoft never has.

barnacs 2 hours ago||
I highly recommend self-hosting a meta-search engine to get away from any single provider without losing the benefits of either. I have been using searx[0] happily for years.

[0]: https://github.com/searxng/searxng

highwaylights 2 hours ago||
You had me until Proton. I bang this drum every so often when it comes up but I’ve had terrible experiences with Proton locking me out of email permanently without warning or explanation in a way that made not just the email address but the accounts linked to it completely unrecoverable.

Don’t play around with email. It’s not communication, it’s critical digital infrastructure - quite possibly your primary key on the internet. The consequences of getting locked out by a faceless provider for reasons you’ll never hear about are probably a lot bigger than you think.

nvr219 3 hours ago||
I use fastmail and kagi and love both. I wonder what OP is using instead of google docs for live co-authoring... Word Online? lol
spacebear 3 hours ago||
Not the OP, but I alternate between self-hosted instances of Outline (https://www.getoutline.com/) and Nextcloud (with Collabora) for this. Outline I actually like better than Google Docs for most things. Nextcloud is a little rough, but it has change tracking, which I need sometimes.

I’ve also seen a lot of people using Cryptpad recently, which I think wraps OnlyOffice.

latexr 3 hours ago||
> I wonder what OP is using instead of google docs for live co-authoring

Probably nothing? It’s not like that’s a need that everyone has.

seaucre 4 hours ago|
Gmail can be made vanilla. It sounds like switching emails and improving their email hygiene was the real improvement.
direwolf20 3 hours ago|
It will still always analyse your emails for advertising purposes.
jeffbee 3 hours ago||
Gmail is one of the only three categories of user data that Google specifically says they won't scan.
hn_acc1 3 hours ago||
Which probably means they scan it extra hard.
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