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Posted by speckx 10 hours ago

Leaving Google has actively improved my life(pseudosingleton.com)
405 points | 222 commentspage 5
drnick1 6 hours ago|
It is very easy to get rid of Google, at least for the kind of person on HN.

Search -> DuckDuckGo

Drive -> Own networked file server

Phone -> Flash Graphene on your Pixel

Browser -> Firefox

Email -> Host your own (this is the hardest)

Youtube -> uBlock Origin (for Firefox), logged out

The last one isn't really a replacement, but Google certainly isn't making any money. Now do the same with Apple and Microsoft by running Linux on your machines and you are close to 100% free of big tech.

pavel_lishin 9 hours ago||
> I always thought I loved Gmail. Turns out I just had the habit of typing in “gmail.com” in my search bar. I honestly can’t tell you a single feature of Gmail that I miss.

> Leaving Gmail also gave me the opportunity to start implementing better digital hygiene. I no longer give my primary email to fly-by-night sites, and I'm deliberate with what things I'm signing up for.

I also do this, but with my own custom domain - still in gmail.

Gmail is fine, imo. I also don't let them algorithmically sort my email - I use filters & such.

arthurjj 7 hours ago||
I was thrown by

> I do my best to boycott bad things. And I fail pretty often. I still use Amazon on occasion and I can’t get off Spotify. I use Uber and DoorDash a lot more than I’d like. And I have too many Apple products/services.

> Individual actions probably will not save the world, but big tech is bad

It's weird to see this without any context or justification or comparison to other industries. As if it's so self evidently true that the author never considered the reader might dismiss his wider point when coming across it with no explanation

elxr 6 hours ago|
Yup.

It's a poorly written article, and the writer comes across as unpleasant to talk to. Saying "big tech is bad" with no extra context has to be one of the dumbest things I've seen on a post with this many upvotes.

bilekas 7 hours ago||
Just because Kagi is always mentioned in these type of posts, I can see already there's a lot of posts.

https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...

bilekas 1 hour ago|
This will be downvoted heavy, so just to remind Russia
elxr 8 hours ago||
> actively improved my life

Doesn't clarify beyond some trite remarks with no actual proof.

pkilgore 6 hours ago|
> actual proof

You don't think their own opinion of their own life isn't self-evident proof?

elxr 6 hours ago||
When it's poorly explained, no.

Outside of a small handful that do go in-depth, these "switching off of Google" people just repeat the same thing over and over again, and expect everyone to instinctively agree with their views.

This has the classics like: - "Google’s services are actively worse than the alternatives" (not actually listing which services they're talking about. Not showing specific features or design decisions which are worse than the alternative. Youtube is certainly not worse than the alternatives.) - "I do my best to boycott bad things" - "but big tech is bad" - "The old adage of “if you’re not paying, you’re the product” is certainly true here." (do we need to hear this banality for the thousandth time?, also there's plenty of actually free services, like this site we're discussing this on.)

jmspring 7 hours ago||
I'm in the process of de-googling. It will take time (changing third party contact emails - banks, etc is annoying) - I honestly wish there was the equivalent of "moving" where emails could be updated the same way.

DDG - I love the premise, but their search relies too heavily on Bing which - worked for msft, etc... - no idea why it sucks so much.

Claude/etc for search - artificial guardrails. "Hey give me an example of Charlie Kirk being a homophobe" - "I can't do that". Contrived example, but realistic result.

Google started out as a non-opinionated (outside of link weight) search engine that is now gemini and bs. But even search is not useful. DDG tries, but responses are sub-par.

rappatic 6 hours ago||
This is the way. Vote with your wallet!
avazhi 9 hours ago||
Not a fan of Google but I always find Gmail criticisms so weird.

Like, what does this guy even mean about the algorithm sorting his inbox? Legit what the fuck is he talking about? Non junk mail goes to my inbox. Spam goes to spam. What am I missing?

And speaking of spam, I have a bunch of proton mail accounts and outlook accounts and iCloud mail accounts and Gmail’s spam filter is easily the best. Like, it’s not even close. Protonmail is nearly as bad as outlook at dealing with spam. It’s impossible to overstate how bad both of them are at filtering spam vs Gmail.

I legit feel like I’m either being actively gaslit or I’m genuinely missing something big here.

As for search alternatives, I’d love to use Kagi full time but the cost is just unreasonably high for now IMO.

jhhh 8 hours ago||
Google had a feature in gmail for a long time that automatically sorts your email into categories like Promotions, Social, Updates, Forums, etc. It was automated and fairly effective imo. If you try to disable the 'smart' features they will then disable this categorization retroactively and dump thousands of emails in your inbox and then nag you about turning it back on.
avazhi 8 hours ago||
I’ve clearly had it turned off for years(?) and I’ve never had it nag about it.
chroma_zone 9 hours ago|||
You may have turned this feature off (like I did) but by default Gmail sorts your emails into categories like Promotions, Social, Updates...
r_lee 9 hours ago|||
it's just someone who thinks degoogling himself has somehow elevated his entire existence to the sky

I'm personally not so attached to this idea of Google being evil so I don't really get this at all

Aurornis 9 hours ago|||
> Like, what does this guy even mean about the algorithm sorting his inbox? Legit what the fuck is he talking about?

Gmail has a feature that can break your inbox into a priority section and an everything else section. You have to put in some work to flag and unflag messages based on what you think is important. It's not perfect but with some training it's helpful.

Some people turn it on and expect it to read their minds about everything or think they can ignore the everything else section.

You can just turn it back off. You don't have to leave Gmail.

> And speaking of spam, I have a bunch of proton mail accounts and outlook accounts and iCloud mail accounts and Gmail’s spam filter is easily the best.

Agree. This person's reduced spam experience was due to the new e-mail address and being disciplined about not signing up for a million things on it, not because Proton is better.

liquid_thyme 7 hours ago||
Google takes money to bypass their spam filters. They call those ads.
bawolff 7 hours ago||
I used to hate the google AI summaries, but recently its like a switch flipped and im finding them actually useful.

Especially when my search query is looking up something basic from the docs (like say library function name or argument order), it really just answers what i want.

Of course a big part of the problem is that google is inundated with seo spam when it comes to programming topics .

numbers 7 hours ago|
Wait till you move over to something like Kagi. It's really like an elevated experience when it comes to search. At first it's just less ads and none of that Google BS, but then eventually you start to use their other features. You realize, search could have moved in this direction a long time ago if Google wasn't motivated by ads.
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