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Posted by BloondAndDoom 1 day ago

We Will Not Be Divided(notdivided.org)
2575 points | 818 commentspage 11
guywithahat 18 hours ago|
> Label the company a "supply chain risk"

Are they not a huge supply chain risk? Anthropic, being second chicken to OpenAI for a long time, decided to integrate tightly with the DoW. Now that their consumer products are doing better they're making decisions for the DoW as a supplier. This isn't about whether I agree with the DoW or not, it's just that behavior obviously would never fly with any customer.

The only real surprise is I haven't heard of the DoW considering Grok, which is not only a frontier model but has an existing gov cloud platform.

shevy-java 1 day ago||
"We are the employees of Google and OpenAI, two of the top AI companies in the world."

Well, good luck to them, but the state can control from top-down via laws, so they WILL eventually abuse people and violate their rights by proxy-force. I would not trust any of them with my data.

pluc 1 day ago||
They have now deleted/hid all signatures because their corpodaddy went the other way.

This is so great.

tonymet 19 hours ago||
Allowing anonymous signatories only weakens the petition. Two important people signing a petition is worth more than 10000 anons.

I scrolled through a few pages and 40-60% are anonymous. Even a handful weakens the petition.

I wish more people would participate in civics . Attend your city council or local political party meeting. See what it takes to actually collect signatures, run a campaign.

Online slactivism actually just worsens the cause, because potential energy is vented on futile online “petitions” rather than taking real action.

monkaiju 21 hours ago||
I'm regularly surprised how otherwise intelligent people with "good intentions" keep going to work at these places in the first place, then get all "surprised pikachu" when it turns out their work might go towards nefarious ends. These technologies are inherently anti-creativity and researchers have been sounding the alarms about their efficacy for mass surveillance for a long time. Even this petition only seems concerned with "domestic mass surveillance", as if the tools used by an empire abroad dont inevitably get turned inwards.

At some point its hard not to think they just cant avoid the money. At least for the SWEs these are folks who could work at much less "evil" businesses and still easily clear $150k or $200k but they just cant help themselves. This is a company that steals its training data and whose primary product is at best an anti working-class cudgel that management can use to intimidate workers and threaten them with replacement and at worse is a mass-surveillance/killing tool.

nailer 21 hours ago||
All that will happen as a result of US companies not willing to work on weapons is that the US will be made more vulnerable to adversaries, particularly the CCP who don’t care about these things.
gurumeditations 21 hours ago||
The “Department of War” DOES NOT EXIST.
nailer 22 hours ago||
From the HN Guidelines:

> Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.

drcongo 1 day ago||
If I was Anthropic, I'd be saving this as a list of potential hires who share the company's values and shortlisting some to call up on Monday morning.
surume 1 day ago|
You must follow the law in your home country. Your refusal to do so constitutes Treason. Obey the law.
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