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Posted by BloondAndDoom 1 day ago

We Will Not Be Divided(notdivided.org)
2550 points | 807 commentspage 7
djgrant 13 hours ago|
The regulatory environment in the US is insane
himata4113 1 day ago||
Does this mean there is a non zero chance we will get some kind of grok+chinese model mix that's used across the entire US military? Ironic isn't it.
zahlman 1 day ago||
Is there a particular reason why the actual letter content requires JavaScript to load while everything else is readable?
fschuett 23 hours ago||
Ted Kaczynski was right about technology
focusgroup0 1 day ago||
> domestic mass surveillance and autonomously killing people without human oversight

spoiler alert: this is already happening

do labs in China have a choice in the matter?

gcanyon 1 day ago||
No problem! The DoD^HW will just use DeepSeek!

(I wish this were a joke)

dryarzeg 1 day ago||
They've already been using Signal - which is "commercial" app, meaning it's not meant to be used like that - for top-secret (or at least highly sensitive) military communications during the military strikes on Yemen. If that was fake, I apologise, I was deceived. I wouldn't be surprised if things turned out that way again, to be honest. That's something to be expected, actually (IMO).
verdverm 1 day ago||
Aren't they using the Israeli version of Signal which backs up messages because the law requires it?

Pretty sure I remember that from the fumble

JshWright 1 day ago|||
The legal name of the department is still the Department of Defense. The "Department of War" is a preferred name by the administration.
k12sosse 1 day ago||
Identity affirming care now includes avoiding the DODs deadname. What a world.
dang 1 day ago||
Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

dalemhurley 1 day ago||
They are after the models without post training guardrails.
spuz 1 day ago||
They should be collecting signatures from employees at xAI. I think they're probably most likely to fill the space left by Anthropic.
dalemhurley 1 day ago||
XAI has already announced they are 100% in

https://x.ai/news/us-gov-dept-of-war

spuz 1 day ago|||
All the more reason to collect their employees' signatures.
aeon_ai 1 day ago|||
This kind of screams desperation, but I guess that's what happens when you're niche AI.
verdverm 1 day ago|||
niche is a polite way to put it
actionfromafar 1 day ago||
Bot-ique Mechahitler.
nailer 14 hours ago|||
No. The US needs automated weapons China will attack Taiwan, Hamas will go on another murder rampage.
ocdtrekkie 1 day ago|||
Everyone knows anyone who signs this from xAI will be a former employee by tomorrow.
dalemhurley 1 day ago||
My guess is their HR is already monitoring it with instant termination processes in place.
spuz 1 day ago|||
You can sign the form anonymously.
ocdtrekkie 1 day ago||
Both the automated verification methods depend on Google servers and Google can almost certainly retrieve that data if they want to regardless of if the signers or verifiers delete it.
ocdtrekkie 1 day ago|||
You're assuming a lot about Elon's ability to assemble and execute a process competently. They will probably end up hiring people off this list and firing them later.

I think what is much more interesting is what OpenAI and Google will do. There's probably some threshold of signatories where the companies in question do not fire everyone when they decide they want the DoD's business, the question will be how many people have to sign to cross it... and will enough people sign.

I don't think Google would bat an eye at firing 500 people to secure a DoD contract, but would they fire 5,000?

xvector 1 day ago|||
There is a specific kind of person that joins xAI over the other companies and it is definitely not a moral one.
clouedoc 16 hours ago||
It's hard to deny an offer to become a millionaire in the next 3 years if you just hang tight at xAI, especially if you don't have any offers from competing AI labs. Also, LLMs are converging into an easy-to-replicate commodity. It doesn't matter much who wastes their money on you to build them.
xvector 13 hours ago||
If you can get an offer at xAI you can get an offer anywhere. All the labs and top players will make you a millionaire in 3 years.

xAI is a pure choice. Their people have the ability to work at Anthropic but choose xAI.

belter 1 day ago||
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bottlepalm 1 day ago||
We all knew AI had the potential to be extremely powerful, and we all perused it anyways. What did we think would happen? The government/military always takes control of the most powerful/dangerous systems. If you work for a defense contractor or under ITAR then you already know this.

The right way to deal with this is political - corporate campaign contributions and lobbying. You're not going to be able to fight the military if they think they need something for national security.

poisonborz 20 hours ago||
So these are the employees that ignore the hundreds of other atrocities their companies do against other countries, small firms, individuals, come out flags waving for some cherry-picked issues, and next day go back to their well paid jobs, vested stocks and office perks and lunch chefs to passively support these agendas further, even if they have the best career mobility across almost all industries.

I mean it's neat, but naive at best.

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