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Posted by Garbage 10 hours ago

New iPad Air, powered by M4(www.apple.com)
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sccxy 7 hours ago|
Can you connect it to USB-C/Thunderbolt monitor/dock and use it with keyboard and mouse?
jeroenhd 6 hours ago||
Has been for a while, assuming you can get work done on the iPad UI. It doesn't do a normal mouse and there are some limitations to things like screen dimensions.

Works in a pinch but Apple is not going to compete with themselves on this front, they're expecting you to buy a macbook for serious work and an iPad for work in a pinch.

ivanjermakov 6 hours ago|||
Had no problems connecting iPad Air 4 to external display via USB-C DP. Have not check whether periphery devices work this way though - I used BLE keyboard.
rllearneratwork 6 hours ago|||
yes. Has been possible since at least M1.

Buy M-based iPad, nice monitor, keyboard and mouse. Connect mouse and keyboard to monitor via USB. Then iPad via USB-C/Thunderbolt to monitor. Everything "just works" and you can handle surprisingly high amount of work this way

eagerpace 6 hours ago|||
Can you share more about this experience please? To me, you're still left with apps that are designed for a touchscreen and consumption.
konart 6 hours ago|||
If you are using an iPad as a second screen - you get the same app you have on your mac (obviously, iPad just acts as a second screen: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102597).

If you are using an external keyboard and a mouse with it - you will get the same touch UI, yes.

thinkling 6 hours ago|||
Many apps are missing many keyboard shortcuts that you may be used to if you’ve used the equivalent on the desktop. You’ll need to keep the iPad screen accessible to tap on UX elements. There’s also the issue that shortcuts that do exist may be hard to discover because there’s no menu bar to look in.
spectre3d 3 hours ago||
Hold down the command ⌘ key to view all available shortcuts for the app you’re currently using, and use Fn-m or globe key -m to see a list of all available system shortcuts.
sccxy 6 hours ago||||
Specs show that Pro models got Thunderbolt and Air only got USB-C.

Very vague specs.

Can iPad Air USB-C deliver 4k 120hz or how much bandwidth that USB-C got?

SenHeng 6 hours ago|||
It's been possible since the iPad 2.

I used to code HTML/CSS that way back in... 2011?

znpy 7 hours ago||
I was about to ask the same. I'd like to get an ipad for the same purpose. The iPad pro can for sure, but I don't want to spend ipad pro money.
pixelmonkey 3 hours ago||
If you were utterly confused, like I was, how the iPad Air M4 compares to the iPad Pro M5 and the iPad Pro M4, this 3-column comparison table from Apple's website might help:

https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/?modelList=ipad-air-11-m4...

The quick summary:

- iPad Air has 2 stereo speakers, rather than 4 speakers as Pro models

- Touch ID in top button rather than FaceID as Pro models

- iPad Air is slightly heavier (???) than either Pro model

- screen of iPad Air is a bit less bright

- no nano-texture display option on iPad Air

- no true Thunderbolt connectivity through USB-C port on iPad Air

- all devices can use same Apple Pencil Pro...

- ... but the iPad Air takes a special Magic Keyboard (supposedly due to form factor)

- camera array is slightly different on iPad Air (no ProRes video)

joshkojoras 6 hours ago||
I had a 2008 iPad until few years ago and I think it was the most impressive device I ever owned. I couldn't believe how much performance and longevity you can get out of such a small and simple device, for the price which hasn't changed in 8 years. I sold it because I spent most of my time on a laptop, but looking at this new M4 Air iPad makes my wallet tingle. I first want to see what the low cost Macbook is like, hopefully that's tomorrow.
pier25 6 hours ago|
The iPad 1 was released in 2010
joshkojoras 5 hours ago|||
I made a typo, it was supposed to say 2018.
kridsdale3 6 hours ago|||
Unless you had a prototype.
chorkpop 10 hours ago||
I wish Apple hadn't decided that colors weren't for pro users. I would love to have any of those.
criddell 9 hours ago||
I'm still upset that they dropped the Smart Keyboard Folio. For me, that was the perfect keyboard case. I was hoping some third party would copy the design and release a new case but it never happened.
Marsymars 8 hours ago|||
The Smart Keyboard Folio is great! I got one on clearance a few months ago and use it whenever I'm using the iPad around house/town. (If I'm travelling out of town with my iPad where I won't be able to use my desktop keyboard, I bring my Magic Keyboard instead.)

It's so good that if Apple changes the form-factor of the iPad Air, I'll probably take that opportunity to buy the last Smart Keyboard Folio-compatible iPad Air to stretch my use of it as long as possible. (Though I worry that at that point I'll wear out the internal ribbon connectors eventually.)

mayoff 6 hours ago|||
Somehow Woot still has a supply of the Smart Keyboard Folio for certain 11" iPads Pro/Air.

My wife is still using an older gen 11" iPad Pro and her keyboard folio stopped working (they fall apart after a few years ), so I took a gamble and ordered one. It arrived in the original, sealed packaging. As far as I can tell, it had never been opened, and it is perfect condition and works great. My wife is very happy. I bought a second one for when this one falls apart.

https://www.amazon.com/Apple-Smart-Keyboard-11-inch-iPad-Pro...

jajuuka 7 hours ago||
That's true of most OEM's. Most phones will be cases so I can at least understand that argument, but I don't think as many tablets are in cases.
speedylight 5 hours ago||
I have the M3 iPad Air… I won’t have to replace it for at least 4 years because it’s stupidly powerful but both of its hands are tied because of iPad OS. Apple needs to get serious and make a version of MacOS for the iPad otherwise these upgrades are meaningless for most users.
journal 2 hours ago||
ipad is one of those devices that doesn't need to exist, along with apple watch.
eknkc 9 hours ago||
I still have no idea wht to do with my previous gen iPad Pro..
ErneX 6 hours ago|
imo the Pro are for serious creative types who do either 3D modelling, illustration, photo editing, video editing or music.

If you just browse the web and stuff like that you might just get a regular iPad.

amoss 9 hours ago||
No side profile pics on the page. My only concern would be can it lay flat on a table for taking notes or does it have a camera bulge that makes it wobble?
morganw 9 hours ago||
> does it have a camera bulge that makes it wobble?

Yes https://www.apple.com/v/ipad-air/af/images/overview/closer-l... from https://www.apple.com/ipad-air/

halapro 8 hours ago||
I hate apple. Can't they just add a second bump on the other side? They're being a PITA with this wobble and it's been going on for like 15 years now (iPhone 7 forward)
fumeux_fume 9 hours ago||
FWIW, the iPad Air I bought a couple years ago has a small protrusion for the single camera lens, but does not wobble when laying flat and is not really noticeable. This latest iPad Air has a similar design.
pmdr 5 hours ago||
I bought a regular iPad in 2017, I'm really impressed that almost 9 years later it's still working and the batter is still great (especially for reading).
waynecochran 9 hours ago|
When will I be able to run Xcode on one of these?
fudged71 7 hours ago||
Wait for the alleged touchscreen MacBooks to drop, possibly this week
waynecochran 6 hours ago||
wait .. what ... for real? Take my money Apple.
css_apologist 8 hours ago||
looks like never
waynecochran 6 hours ago||
:(
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