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Posted by meetpateltech 6 hours ago

GPT‑5.3 Instant(openai.com)
238 points | 158 commentspage 2
riazrizvi 1 hour ago|
What a strange-to-me announcement. I just submitted my first feedback comment last night, after using the platform for two years, where I said the responses were too long and padded with dramatic phrasing, and if it shortened them I could guide it better. Then today they announce this.

What a time to be alive.

hmokiguess 3 hours ago||
> why can't i find love in san francisco

amazing how that's where we are now, coming from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Left_My_Heart_in_San_Francis... in the 60s

mmaunder 4 hours ago||
This kind of metalinguistic quotation from 5.2 right now drives me nuts!

```That kind of “make it work at distance” trajectory work can meaningfully increase weapon effectiveness, so I have to keep it to safe, non-actionable help.```

I'm really hoping all their newer models stop doing this. It's massively overused.

EthanHeilman 4 hours ago||
How likely is that they dropped this now to push the news story about quitGPT out of the headlines?
1f60c 2 hours ago||
Not super likely, I would say. We knew 5.3 was coming for a while and sama cannot stop talking about the current situation on X.
dainiusse 3 hours ago||
OpenAI again making confusion with names...
wavemode 3 hours ago||
Given their close ties to Microsoft, I expect to start seeing names like "ChatGPT One" and "ChatGPT OneX"
preommr 1 hour ago|||
Which would be an improvement over the already existing "GPT-5.1-Codex-Max-xHigh"
lbreakjai 2 hours ago|||
.Net copilot GPT
therein 1 hour ago||
Sounds like a Ubiquiti security camera now.
butILoveLife 3 hours ago||
I unsubbed because ChatGPT was no longer SOTA. They def got cheap.

Reminds me of that graph where late customers are abused. OpenAI is already abusing the late customers.

Claude is pretty great.

mediaman 2 hours ago||
It's odd because I no longer really like ChatGPT. For chat-type requests, I prefer Claude, or if it's knowledge-intensive then Gemini 3 Pro (which is better for history, old novels, etc).

But GPT 5.3 Codex is great. Significantly better than Opus, in the TUI coding agent.

reedlaw 1 hour ago|||
I don't know about Opus, but Codex suddenly got a lot better to the point that I prefer it over Sonnet 4.6. Claude takes ages and comes up with half baked solutions. Codex is so fast that I miss waiting. It also writes tests without prompting.
butILoveLife 1 hour ago|||
May be trying Codex on your suggestion. I was recently let down by its regular thinking.
sothatsit 1 hour ago||
ChatGPT’s instant models are useless, and their thinking models are slow. This makes Claude more pleasant to use, despite them not being SOTA.

But ChatGPT is still SOTA in search and hard problem solving.

GPT-5.2 Pro is the model people are using to solve Erdos problems after all, not Claude or Gemini. The Thinking models are noticeably better if you have difficult problems to work on, which justifies my sub even if I use Claude for everything else. Their Codex models are also much smarter, but also less pleasant to use.

redox99 1 hour ago||
IME ChatGPT is pretty mid at search. Grok although significantly dumber, is really strong at diligently going through hundreds of search results, and is much more tuned to rely on search results instead of its internal knowledge (which depending on the case can be better or worse). It's the only situation where Grok is worth using IMO.

Gemini is really good with many topics. Vastly superior to ChatGPT for agronomy.

You should always use the best model for the job, not just stick to one.

butILoveLife 50 minutes ago||
I'd be friends with you. Wish you had contact info in your profile.
sigbottle 3 hours ago||
Well needed if the changes work as advertised. I realized from talking with 5.2 that the issue is not about being a yapper, or speaking too much about random factual tangents or your own opinions. That's easy to tune out, and sometimes it's helpful even.

What's extremely frustrating is the subtle framings and assumptions about the user that is then treated as implicit truth and smuggled in. It's plain and simple, narcissistic frame control. Obviously I don't think GPT has a "desire" to be narcissistic or whatever, but it's genuinely exhausting talking to GPT because of this. You have to restart the conversation immediately if you get into this loop. I've never been able to dig myself out of this state.

I feel like I've dealt with that kind of thing all my life, so I'm pretty sensitive to it.

ViktorRay 5 hours ago||
GPT‑5.2 Instant’s tone could sometimes feel “cringe,” coming across as overbearing or making unwarranted assumptions about user intent or emotions.

Strange way to write this. Why use the Gen Z cringe and put it into quotation marks? Wouldn’t it be better to just use the actual word cringeworthy which has the identical meaning?

My guess is that the article was originally written by some Gen Z intern and then some older employee added the quotation marks to the Gen Z slang.

tux3 5 hours ago||
No, sincerely calling things cringe is a millennial marker. Cringe was thrown around a lot in 2010's, but that was a decade and a half ago.

Nowadays you'll hear that cringe is cringe, let people enjoy things, be cringe and be free, etc etc

tempaccountabgd 4 hours ago||
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gdubs 4 hours ago|||
The quote in this case is because "cringe" is what many online have been calling it. So, they're actually quoting a very common critique.
pbmango 4 hours ago|||
I imagine a huge proportion of their users are under 30. The prompt examples included even use the tell tale all lowercase (though apparently sama types like this too).

This is probably less pandering to genz and more speaking their users language.

mynameisvlad 5 hours ago|||
The slang definition of "cringe" is present in most dictionaries. Languages evolve over time.
BeetleB 3 hours ago|||
Because the use above is grammatically incorrect without the quotes.

cringe-worthy would be appropriate. cringey may be OK depending on who you ask.

giancarlostoro 4 hours ago|||
Since when is cringe a Gen Z thing? I've said it for ages.
seanhunter 5 hours ago|||
Agree. Use of "cringe" is cringeworthy in itself.
dwringer 5 hours ago|||
The scare quotes around words that don't warrant it, or are unnecessarily idiosyncratic, are something I get pretty often in response text from Gemini.
Sharlin 4 hours ago||
In this case the use of quotes seems to have been perfectly appropriate as it's almost certainly a word they've seen many people using when giving feedback.
Neywiny 5 hours ago||
What an Ohio take. Not skibidi. Very chopped, unc.
jackfischer 3 hours ago||
Is this only in ChatGPT proper and not in the API? Requests appear to 400 and it does not appear in `/v1/models`
XCSme 2 hours ago|
They said it's available in the API too, in the blog post.

EDIT:

> GPT‑5.3 Instant is available starting today to all users in ChatGPT, as well as to developers in the API as ‘gpt-5.3-chat-latest.’ Updates to Thinking and Pro will follow soon. GPT‑5.2 Instant will remain available for three months for paid users in the model picker under the Legacy Models section, after which it will be retired on June 3, 2026.

c88224271 2 hours ago|
What's the model ID?

I tried gpt-5.3-instant but it says model does not exist

Also don't see it on their model page

timedude 1 hour ago|
"GPT‑5.3 Instant is available starting today to all users in ChatGPT, as well as to developers in the API as ‘gpt-5.3-chat-latest.’ "
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