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Posted by 1659447091 12 hours ago

TikTok will not introduce end-to-end encryption, saying it makes users less safe(www.bbc.com)
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deafpolygon 6 hours ago|
why are we still wringing our hands around this? we’ve already determined that tiktok is bad for our health.

because tiktok is addicting, and they know it…

hackersk 3 hours ago||
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bsza 2 hours ago||
> We know just how risky end-to-end-encrypted platforms can be for children

As opposed to doomscrolling and brainrot, which are not risky to expose children to at all. /s

If TikTok cared about children in the slightest, they would not exist.

Bud 9 hours ago||
BBC calling encryption "controversial privacy tech" is deeply disappointing and dangerous.
1shooner 9 hours ago||
I wondered how it could be considered 'controversial', but they do quote at least a couple groups speaking against it. The NSPCC for instance, who incidentally also warned parents about a Harry Potter video game because their children might want to learn more about the game:

>“Parents should also be aware that players may want to find out more about the game using other platforms such as YouTube, Twitch, Reddit and Discord, where other game fans can discuss strategies and experiences.

ggm 9 hours ago|||
It is controversial.. amongst people who have concerns about private communications and society, from a regulatory and governance perspective.

It's uncontroversial amongst people who value their privacy.

The tension between the two camps (there are obviously nuances and this is a false dichotomy) is at a current peak. It's an ongoing controversy. It's a matter of public debate.

You might have liked it better if the angle had been "...which the government, controversially, wants to clamp down on" or something.

stinkbeetle 8 hours ago|||
Calling something controversial is a favorite propaganda technique employed by "news" outlets. It's another form of selective reporting and framing. It carries negative connotations, and has really no objective standard by which it can be wrong since you'll always find somebody against any issue.

After you notice it, you'll notice it everywhere.

trashb 2 hours ago||
> It carries negative connotations

Interesting I'm not a native English speaker but in news articles I have always interpreted "controversial" as meaning "under discussion" (perhaps even around a 50/50 divide) hence why they are writing an article about it.

I feel it is the news outlet trying to justify why the topic is important to read about since most people reading it will interpret the issue at hand as having a "common" stance. Usually it is used in topics that are very binary, for or against.

stinkbeetle 2 hours ago||
It does have negative connotations. And it does get used by news corporations to influence opinion. I have rarely if ever seen them feel the need to explain why a topic they report is important or newsworthy, and just stating without evidence that something is controversial really doesn't either.

> Usually it is used in topics that are very binary, for or against.

It can be for those topics, but very rarely to describe the side of such topics with which they align.

unethical_ban 9 hours ago||
The UK government seems a lot more willing to embrace the panopticon in the name of protecting people from terrorists, child sex traffickers, human rights activists, Catholics, jaywalkers, you name it.
dakolli 8 hours ago|
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mobtrain 7 hours ago|
Thanks for letting us know, 53 days old HN account!
dakolli 3 hours ago|||
So what?