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Posted by greyface- 8 hours ago

Wikipedia was in read-only mode following mass admin account compromise(www.wikimediastatus.net)
https://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14555

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(techni...

https://old.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/1rllcdg/megathre...

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sciencejerk 6 hours ago|
I wonder if any poisoned data made it into LLM training data pipelines?
ibejoeb 5 hours ago|
Interesting angle. Everyone has already pointed out that there are backups basically everywhere, and from an information standpoint, shaving off a day (or whatever) of edits just to get to a known-good point is effectively zero cost. But I wonder what the cost is of the potentially bad data getting baked into those models, and if anyone really cares enough to scrap it.
garbagecreator 7 hours ago||
Another reason to make the default disabling JS on all websites, and the website should offer a service without JS, especially those implemented in obsolete garbage tech. If it's not an XSS from a famous website, it will be an exploit from a sketchy website.
TZubiri 6 hours ago||
There's thousands of copies of the whole wikipedia in sql form though, IIRC it's just like 47GB.
eblume 4 hours ago|
Correct. Not sure about a sql archive, but the kiwix ZIM archive of the top 1M English articles including (downsized but not minimized) images is 43GiB: https://download.kiwix.org/zim/wikipedia/

And the entire English wikipedia with no images is, interestingly, also 43GiB.

0xWTF 7 hours ago||
Looking forward to the postmortem...
Kiboneu 6 hours ago||
GOD am I thankful to my old self for disabling js by default. And sticking with it.

edit: lol downvoted with no counterpoint, is it hitting a nerve?

Imustaskforhelp 5 hours ago|
> edit: lol downvoted with no counterpoint, is it hitting a nerve?

I have upvoted ya fwiw and I don't understand it either why people would try to downvote ya.

I mean, if websites work for you while disabling js and you are fine with it. Then I mean JS is an threat vector somewhat.

Many of us are unable to live our lives without JS. I used to use librewolf and complete and total privacy started feeling a little too uncomfortable

Now I am on zen-browser fwiw which I do think has some improvements over stock firefox in terms of privacy but I can't say this for sure but I mainly use zen because it looks really good and I just love zen.

Kiboneu 4 hours ago|||
> I mean, if websites work for you while disabling js and you are fine with it. Then I mean JS is an threat vector somewhat

It's also been torture, I definitely don't prescribe it. :P Like you say, it's a sanity / utility / security tradeoff. I just happen to be willing to trade off sanity for utility and security.

And yes, unfortunately I have to enable JS for some sites -- the default is to leave it disabled. And of course with cloudflare I have to whitelist it specifically for their domains (well, the non analytics domains). But thankfully wikipedia is light and spiffy without the javascript.

pluralmonad 4 hours ago|||
What is uncomfortable about Librewolf? I thought it was basically FF without telemetry and UBO already baked in?
Imustaskforhelp 4 hours ago||
I appreciate librewolf but when I used to use it, IIRC its fingerprinting features were too strict for some websites IIRC and you definitely have to tone it down a bit by going into the settings. Canvases don't work and there were some other features too.

That being said, Once again, Librewolf is amazing software. I can see myself using it again but I just find zen easier in the sense of something which I can recommend plus ubO obv

Personally these are more aesthetic changes more than anything. I just really like how zen looks and feels.

The answer is sort of, Just personal preference that's all.

krater23 4 hours ago||
Just thought about.

Who wins the most from a Wikipedia outage and has questionable moral views? The same who currently struggles to find paying customers for his services.

The large AI companies.

nixass 7 hours ago||
I can edit it
tantalor 8 hours ago||
"Закрываем проект" is Russian for "Closing the project"
j45 7 hours ago||
It's reassuring to know Wikipedia has these kinds of security mechanisms in place.
lynx97 5 hours ago|
Time to spend some of this excess money on a bit of security tightening? I hear we're talking about a 9 digit figure.
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