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Posted by jruohonen 5 hours ago

The death of social media is the renaissance of RSS (2025)(www.smartlab.at)
141 points | 83 comments
mnls 3 hours ago|
Every article that I’ve read in the last 5 years about the RSS revival has a big section explaining what is RSS.

And that’s the answer about RSS renaissance. If you have to explain it, there is zero chance of massive adoption.

bluebarbet 1 hour ago||
My take on the RSS-renaissance chestnut: The original sin is the name. Only clueless nerds could come up with such a soporific, opaque, geeky moniker as "RSS". It should have been called "Webfeed". Then there would be no explaining to do.
benrutter 13 minutes ago||
This is a great point. Maybe we can start now?

Apparently is is called web feed, although I never have heard this until I searched off the back of your comment[0].

Apparently, web feed also encompasses Atom and JSON feed as well as RSS, which is probably more in the spirit of how people actually say "RSS".

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_feed

NL807 2 hours ago|||
> If you have to explain it, there is zero chance of massive adoption.

Here's the thing, one should not need to explain it no mire. Devices or applications accessing content with an RSS option should present it to the end user through a convenient interface.

izacus 1 hour ago|||
I'm happily using RSS despite you needing an explanation. Funny how that works.
rambambram 1 hour ago|||
I've been calling it 'Really Social Sites' for a long time. ;)
gonzo41 2 hours ago||
It just needs to be described in a more concrete way to people. Such as, You know how the podcasts you listen to keep getting updated on your phone? That's RSS. Imagine if other things you liked turned up when they were new and you had a lot of control over that process.
sirl1on 2 hours ago||
Most non-tech people I know listen to podcasts through Spotify and some think Spotify invented them.

Looking how podcasts advertise themselves, those who do use RSS advertise "Apple Podcasts or in your favorite podcast app" here.

wooger 10 minutes ago||
It's been the absolute worst thing for 10+ years that some podcasts have adverts, even their own website, but somehow fail to provide the RSS feed link anywhere - only app specific links for the biggest 2.

You also have people producing "podcasts" that only exist on youtube.

owisd 40 minutes ago||
If you count Podcasts as RSS then surely RSS is more popular than ever. I can imagine that if Apple bundled a hypertext version of the Podcasts app it would be similarly popular. But they won't because it would compete with their own News+ subscriptions.
pqs 1 hour ago||
I’ve left social networks behind and returned to RSS, and I couldn't be happier. I’m using Delta Chat as an interface with FeedsBot, so the whole setup feels just like Telegram channels, but without Pavel Durov reading everything. It’s been a great experience so far.
ThoAppelsin 2 hours ago||
This just won’t work. If RSS becomes popular, there will be discovery platforms with “algorithm”s. It will be the same thing, just the discovery and content separated.

RSS appears good now only because it’s not popular enough for LLMs to meddle with. I don’t use RSS, so I don’t really mind, but those who use RSS are making disservice to its _purity_ by trying to popularize it.

stared 2 minutes ago||
RSS is just one element of the ecosystem - the input.

I envision that the filtering mechanism CAN use any rules - hand-written, heuristics, old-school machine learning, LLMs. Just with a key difference - you are the one controlling it. No hidden tricks to make you "engaged" (read: addicted) or "sold".

If you feel it is too much politics, you reduce it. If too little - add. If you want less clickbaits and intellectual fast food, you filter it. Etc, etc.

p4bl0 25 minutes ago|||
> it’s not popular enough for LLMs to meddle with

About that, I was sad to see that TDMRep [1] doesn't provide a way to signal reservation for RSS feed, so it has to be done at the HTTP level, otherwise the same content delivered in RSS feed can be legitimately scrapped and mined even if the author opted-out using an HTML meta tag on the website.

[1] https://www.w3.org/community/tdmrep/

devsda 1 hour ago|||
> there will be discovery platforms with “algorithm”s.

We already have platforms like feedly that has optional AI curated feeds.

szszrk 2 hours ago||
> If RSS becomes popular, there will be discovery platforms with “algorithm”s.

So? If plain RSS exists, then you can still consume it the way you want.

I'd like to remind that when RSS was really popular we had "planet" aggregators everywhere, where someone interested in particular topic bundled posts from multiple people.

bonoboTP 1 hour ago||
RSS exists but those authors who don't publish through it probably wouldn't care about it either. Like, if by magic, RSS became popular as a technology, they would publish through it, but then there would be demand for discoverability and algo feeds would win the engagement race and then RSS is in the background and th platform would naturally decide to just focus on the algo and drop RSS and the regular users wouldn't care and authors would only care what regular users care about. Except for the tiny techie bubble.

It's not a technical problem. Less effort will always be more popular and drown out more effort in the mainstream.

Imagine if you could order completely free McDonald's food to your doorstep anytime and could also choose to cook your meals at home. Guess what portion of people would choose which option.

crote 5 hours ago||
I still mourn the loss of Google Reader.

There are plenty of RSS reader apps, but there are very few with good cross-device sync - let alone self-hosted cross-device sync.

stevekemp 1 hour ago||
I've been using one of the numerous "RSS to Email" programs for the past 20 years.

To me that's peak usability, I can use my mail workflow to have cross-device state, I can use my mail clients tagging and spam support to filter, and I have a reasonably good searching facility too.

Some sites only include "teasers" rather than full posts, but they're a minority.

theshrike79 21 minutes ago|||
Self-hosted FreshRSS + NetNewsWire, works like a charm.
bryanrasmussen 4 hours ago|||
I don't think you could self-host Google Reader, so it sort of feels like these two sentences don't hang together.
bryanhogan 3 hours ago||
It's more linked to there not being any / many high quality RSS reader applications, so the comment is talking about a feature, so it does make sense.
bleuarff 54 minutes ago|||
I've been using Feedly ever since the death of Google Reader. If you ignore all the ai bullshit it's simple to use and I've had no issues with cross-device sync.
rainmaking 1 hour ago||
miniflux is pretty good. news.mystuff.net is pretty sweet.
sznio 1 hour ago||
recently I had a thought that the AI revolution will actually be a good thing for the web.

it kills SEO advertising. someone writing an article for the purpose of ranking high and making money off of clicks doesnt get clicks anymore because of AI summaries.

direct content-to-ad-revenue is dead. Either you're a hobbyist and write for the heck of it - so your writing will be honest and better quality. Or, you're a product vendor and your writing is documentation meant to be found by AI summaries, again - that's honest.

Once profit is gone, love is all left.

pjc50 6 minutes ago|
If the AI people win, there will be no human audience for your writing. I don't think people will write simply to benefit someone else's subscription-funded service.
wmeredith 5 hours ago||
Boy I hope so. I miss my RSS reader. I'd love to see one made with the modern UX that makes the doomscrolling apps so engaging. (Or maybe I wouldn't.)
UtopiaPunk 4 hours ago||
I'm reading this on Feeder, which a free RSS app I found on F-Droid. Works for me
1123581321 5 hours ago|||
The Reeder family of RSS apps goes for engaging scrolling on iOS.
beached_whale 5 hours ago|||
I'm reading this on my RSS reader right now :)
dozerly 5 hours ago|||
I am pretty happy with Readwise’s Reader
crimsoneer 2 hours ago||
yeah, Readwise is bloody great. Turns out if you want good software, it can help to pay for it.
SanjayMehta 5 hours ago||
I came here via NetNewsWire. iCloud sync is flakey but that's the only quibble. Oh, and you can't yet export starred articles unless you fiddle with SQL.
brontosaurusrex 1 hour ago||
How can a human communication needs be replaced with something that is read-only?
smitty1e 1 hour ago|
RSS brought me here. RSS is a component, not the whole system.
twelve40 1 hour ago||
the obvious problem with replacing the algorithm is that people actually crave that shit, after all there have been tens of thousands of highly trained engineers making it as addictive as possible. So, no chance.
sznio 1 hour ago|
Just like other addictions, people can choose to quit them.

I feel tiktok is slightly more difficult to drop than cigarettes.

catskull 4 hours ago|
Plug for feeeed: https://feeeed.nateparrott.com

It’s my primary hn reader now.

heresie-dabord 4 hours ago||
A good RSS extension for firefox:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/feedbroreader...

internet_points 43 minutes ago|||
no android version though?
renegat0x0 2 hours ago||
plug for feed database

https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-feeds

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