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Posted by jruohonen 9 hours ago

The death of social media is the renaissance of RSS (2025)(www.smartlab.at)
174 points | 111 commentspage 4
nelsonfigueroa 5 hours ago|
This whole article reeks of AI slop
karolist 5 hours ago||
This, at best bullet talking points were fed to the prompt and given and output length restriction, it's padded to fit the space diluting the message to the point only an LLM can
fleebee 4 hours ago||
I thought so too, but it's almost too insane to me to believe the author would use generative AI to talk about the death of social media due to the flood of slop from the very same generative AI. But only almost.
shevy-java 8 hours ago||
I don't quite use "social media" per se, unless of course hackernews is part of it (which, kind of, is ... anything we can use other people can read or relate to, is kind of social, by definition. I think Facebook etc... tried to claim ownership over the term "social media", and I disagree with this notion). Having said that, I don't use or need RSS, so I don't think there will be a renaissance for RSS for most people.

I do agree that AI is killing tons of things right now. This monster must be stopped; it is worse than Skynet in that it really, really sucks. Things started to decay before AI took over, though - for instance, Google search has been garbage since years. It was useful before that.

I used to compare the decay of google search with how youtube search works. You search for, say, "ninja cats". You get some results about cats. Perhaps also ninjas. After like 10 or 20 results, you suddenly get other videos that are totally unrelated, but you may click on it. That's addictive design. People click on it suddenly when it is interesting to them - but this also takes them away from their original search. Something similar happened to google search. The UI is total crap, it shows semi-related videos (I don't want to watch videos when I search for a specific term), some ads for companies (Google is milking it here) and then also useless entries such as "other people searched for sick grannies instead, do you want to search for this as well" and similar UI-ruining components. Without ublock origin I'd be quite lost already - lo and behold, Google killed ublock origin because it threatened their business model (another reason to use ublock origin; we really need to get rid of Google. It is no longer a useful corporation - just greedy).

zeusdclxvi 9 hours ago||
Big if true
araujo_zip 3 hours ago||
Idk about RSS feeds, but I do hope at least personal websites make a comeback. Social media is absolute slop nowadays
deafpolygon 6 hours ago||
Someone said, “if you have to explain it, then you’ve already failed”. That’s basically the problem in a nutshell. It would be great to see someone build a service based on an open standard, but then you have no moat. Anyone else can come along and build the same service using the same format.

No one wants to make a bet like that, so they don’t. That’s why RSS doesn’t get pushed or used more often.

pipeline_peak 8 hours ago||
RSS only serves as a backbone of a product. There’s no commenting, summaries a sparse, i don’t even think there’s consistent posting dates.

These evangelists want to make it sound like all we need to do is get everyone on board with RSS and we’ll all just hold hands and share the web.

People don’t browse the web, there’s like 10 websites, that’s the whole internet.

Everything else is just asteroids and abandoned space stations.

theshrike79 4 hours ago|
There are so many cool asteroids with people on them though, you can find them here: https://kagi.com/smallweb/
memonkey 9 hours ago||
except that it only allows summaries behind paywalls. in many cases you never get the full article
theshrike79 4 hours ago||
I just don't follow sites with paywalls using RSS, it's that simple.

If you have the key to the paywall, then you can create a feed hydrator to fetch the content to the feed.

colesantiago 8 hours ago|||
Then pay for the content to get access?
pipeline_peak 9 hours ago||
Are you talking about sites that actively support RSS?
mattrathbun 2 hours ago||
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justinator 9 hours ago|
Stop trying to make RSS happen again. It's not going to happen again.
Crowberry 8 hours ago||
I set it up a year or two ago. Now i ready 90 of articles and news through it.
XenophileJKO 8 hours ago|||
Actually I would have agreed with you 2 years ago. But now working with AI so much, maybe RSS "is" just the thing we need for some of the distrobution.
shevy-java 8 hours ago|||
I'd be happy if AI would disappear, but I quite agree with the prior comment - AI is awful but RSS isn't too terribly useful for many of us either. It depends on the individual of course, some people love using RSS feeds. I don't use them. I find RSS not useful.
hombre_fatal 8 hours ago|||
RSS is dead because it’s backwards. It requires everyone you want to follow to implement it since that is the best we could do a decade ago.

We can do better than that: an LLM can ingest unstructured data and turn it into a feed. You shouldn’t need someone else to comply with a protocol just to ingest their data.

I don’t get why people keep fantasizing about a system that gave consumers no control. Scrape the website directly. You decide what’s in the feed, not them.

mmsc 8 hours ago|||
> an LLM can ingest unstructured data and turn it into a feed.

An LLM can try to do that, yes. But LLMs are lossy compression. RSS feeds are accurate, predictable, and follow a pre-defined structure. Using LLMs to ingest data which can easily be turned into an parseable data structure seems strange: use the LLM to do the "next part" of the formula (comprehension, decision making, etc)

There is also LLMs.txt https://llmstxt.org/ eg https://joshua.hu/llms.txt / https://joshua.hu/llms-full.txt

hombre_fatal 37 minutes ago||
I mean that your RSS feed can basically be "Go to https://techcrunch.com/latest/ and use each non-video item as a feed item" or "Go to x.com/some_user and make each tweet a feed item", and the LLM can do a perfect extraction of links from html response blobs.

The only thing you have to do is ensure it can reliably get the response html. Maybe MCP browser + proxy or mirror to seem more human.

I built this for myself. The idea is that each feed is a url + title + a prompt to tell the LLM how to extract the links you want so that it generalizes over all websites.

And each feed item is a canonicalized url + title + a local copy of the content at that url which is an improvement over RSS since so many RSS feeds don't even contain the content.

skybrian 8 hours ago||||
I imagine a reasonably intelligent coding agent would notice that an RSS feed already exists and use it. Possibly transformed if it's not quite the format you want?
pipeline_peak 8 hours ago|||
LLMs use up tons of energy and water.
shevy-java 8 hours ago||
That is the use case for predicting that RSS will dominate tomorrow?
evolve2k 8 hours ago|||
It’s still happening.
waschl 7 hours ago|||
I was never an RSS user until half a year ago. Now that’s my only way of browsing my choice of (tech) news sources and blogs.
worksonmine 2 hours ago|||
I came here via RSS.
bananaflag 8 hours ago||
I've been using RSS daily since 2008 (on feedly since 2013)