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Posted by mmayberry 1 day ago

Meta acquires Moltbook(www.axios.com)
https://web.archive.org/web/20260310154640/https://www.axios..., https://archive.ph/igqsh

https://www.reuters.com/business/meta-acquires-ai-agent-soci...

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ardeaver 23 hours ago|
There are many days where I feel like the right thing for my career is to focus on building meaningful software that solves an actual problem. Then there are days like today, especially after seeing this.
biznickman 22 hours ago||
This is an awful read on this acquisition.

They didn't acquire Moltbook because of the software. Meta is far behind on the AI front especially as it applies to usage adoption. OpenClaw has begun showing new consumer use cases and Moltbook is directionally down a similar path.

They get the team that built it and have more people on the AI initiative who are consumer-centric.

I've watched Matt Schlicht from the team always experiment with cool new use cases of AI and other technologies and now him and Ben have a bigger lab with resources to potentially spawn out larger initiatives.

The lesson here is to spend less time focused on doing what you think is the right thing and spend more time tinkering.

bentt 19 hours ago|||
If they ever do anything again it will be a miracle. Meta is where smart people go to trade in their ambition and morals for stock grants and golden handcuffs.
gavinray 20 hours ago||||
I genuinely don't understand OpenClaw

It's a worse version of Claude Code that you set up to work over common chat apps, from what I gather?

Why would I not just use a Discord/WhatsApp bot etc plugged into Claude Code/Codex?

lucrbvi 20 hours ago|||
I share the feeling; but people using it are mostly non-technicals (despite the 50+ config files lol) and are just runing it constantly to do random things.

But a message bot + Claude Code/Codex would be the better version

criddell 20 hours ago|||
Here you are giving away billion dollar ideas.
kaizenb 20 hours ago||
ツ
cimi_ 21 hours ago||||
> They get the team that built it and have more people on the AI initiative who are consumer-centric.

Who are comfortable releasing systems with horrible security, while proudly stating they never read the code? And with metrics that can be gamed by anyone, but that got reported to literally the entire world?

> The lesson here is to spend less time focused on doing what you think is the right thing and spend more time tinkering.

I'd say the lesson here is that clown world keeps on giving, but hey, maybe I'm just jealous ;)

ryandrake 21 hours ago|||
It feels like the clowns have been winning my entire career.
brentm 21 hours ago||
Clowns get the attention and the attention usually makes for winners.
DebtDeflation 20 hours ago||||
Could you imagine giving MetaClaw full access to your local file system, email, web browser, and all other applications? What could possibly go wrong.
kaizenb 20 hours ago||
Thought and came up with nothing.
CuriouslyC 21 hours ago|||
The only currency in a world where AI does everything is your ability to get human attention. So from that perspective moltbook is a huge success.

If Mark hired these people to do anything other than viral marketing, i.e. if he thinks they're visionaries who are going to make amazing apps, he's deluded.

samiv 21 hours ago|||
You're so right.

You can already see how the same thing has played out with computer games. With the modern engines such as Unity almost anyone can make a game. And almost everyone suffers.

And as a result there's now a million games most of which are poor quality asset flips. Everybody suffers, creators and consumers. Race to the bottom where the bottom has been reached. Prices are zero and earnings are zero.

If 15 years ago an indie game dev would allocate 80% to making the game and 20% to marketing etc. Today that will not get anything but it's much better to spend 20% on the game and 80% on the marketing, SEO optimization and attention harvesting. It's a shouting match where it's all about winning the shouting match not producing the best content.

Another race to the bottom.

WA 21 hours ago|||
idk, indie games that come to my attention seem to be very polished. Which one is successful and fits your criteria?
slumberlust 21 hours ago||||
I disagree that accessibility is a detractor here.

There's never been a better time to be an indie dev. I'd rather have 1/1000 indie games be awesome than being force fed whatever storefront disguised as a game 'AAA' publishers poop out every year.

Just look at how slay the spire is doing up against marathon right now. Which of those was shouting the loudest? Highguard anyone?

PaulHoule 20 hours ago||
I'll second this.

It is true that the indy game market is brutal but it's always been brutal.

You don't really hear about a crisis at the indy game level though, rather at the AAA game level there is much of "we'd like to use our market power to take out the risk in game development" and then years later we realize they took out all the value before they took out the risk and now they're doomed.

armchairhacker 21 hours ago|||
There are millions of asset flips, but the top indie games have never been better. It’s hard for indie developers because there’s so much competition: you need to heavily promote a quality game only because there are so many other quality games.

Likewise these tools have enabled many more people to create vibe-coded slop, and may lead to more quality software (making it harder to stand out without marketing), but the best software will only get better.

sethops1 20 hours ago||
The implication is that the gatekeeping has become marketing dollars, when it used to be skill at making a fun game. I don't think we're in a better situation today.
armchairhacker 20 hours ago||
There are fun games that succeed without marketing, e.g. Balatro, and there are bad games that fail despite it, e.g. Highguard.

The reason that “skill at making a fun game” doesn’t guarantee success is because there are so many fun games. Much less, if at all, because there is so many slop.

toomuchtodo 21 hours ago|||
Mark got lucky enough once he can be wrong the rest of his life and still not be exposed to a cost for it. Purpose of the system is what it does.
PaulHoule 20 hours ago||
... I think he's got an affinity for other people and organizations that have succeeded in the same way. The idea that somebody out there might have a workmanlike approach to life and be able to get consistent results at something would be a threat to his worldview.
classified 20 hours ago||||
> They get the team that built it and have more people on the AI initiative who are consumer-centric.

Whom are you kidding? This is about getting ads in front of eyeballs, nothing else.

liangzhihaver 22 hours ago||||
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biznickman 21 hours ago||
uhhh that's a wild take
margin-dash 22 hours ago||||
Good take
tayo42 21 hours ago|||
This whole site is full of tinkerers and I'm pretty almost none are getting rich off it or having their projects go anywhere.
RajT88 23 hours ago|||
It is like musical one hit wonders, but for software.

Some dumb idea which just hits at the right moment and makes a bunch of money.

tartoran 22 hours ago|||
Does anyone remember the Iphone IFart app that was sold for $1 million?
zooweemama 21 hours ago||
Probably not because it never happened. They did try to sell it though.
matsemann 20 hours ago||
The person that got the top spot for "flashlight" in the app store back in the days made about $600k on it before apple made it a built in function. Just copied existing apps and got lucky. https://www.vg.no/nyheter/i/92ybl/erik-ble-app-millionaer-de...
fantasizr 22 hours ago||||
it's the AI wave of the original viral app store apps like "Yo" and "I am Rich".
shadowgovt 22 hours ago||||
In this case in particular it looks like an acquihire.

Meta just saw two engineers actually execute on the joke about "building Facebook in a weekend" except that it then really took off in its target niche and generated a ton of press.

I don't doubt that they're interested in the AI aspect, but I suspect that a significant contributor was that they demonstrated competence right in the middle of Meta's wheelhouse so why not just grab these guys?

entropicdrifter 22 hours ago||
It's also part of their longer-term trend of buying or burying any company that starts to get any press as a social media site of note outside of major players where that hasn't been an option.
Marsymars 21 hours ago||
This is really it. At Meta's scale, even if it's an long-shot for a competitor to hurt them, it's worth turning those low odds into zero odds.
alex1138 20 hours ago||
Yet Zuck can somehow argue with a straight face FB has competition (apparently they straight up used to delete links to competitors like Google+ at the time, and also the constant copying of Snapchat) and Hacker News can split hairs over trivial definitions like "wdym fb no competition? email exists" or whatever
ohyoutravel 22 hours ago|||
Those “early” ai generated avatars created from you sending in a handful of your own photos. Absolutely printed money, hit right as mildly technical people could use the tech + the tech was developed enough, but before normal people could easily do it.
PaulHoule 20 hours ago|||
It's easy to dismiss as more A.I. FOMO. I mean, Meta's AI has half the IQ of ChatGPT or Gemini. However, a fake social network full of generated content might well be a solution for Meta's problems where their userbase inevitably doesn't measure up to what they wish it would.
gcheong 19 hours ago|||
Maybe not our careers, but probably our souls.
Arcuru 20 hours ago|||
Could be worse, you could be stuck working at Meta.
jrjeksjd8d 21 hours ago|||
In the past ten years I have been frustrated by the tension between working on "interesting" or "important" stuff and working on dumb trendy shit. With the current LLM trend everything has become dumb trendy sshit, which has made the decision simpler.
mvc 21 hours ago|||
Ha! I stopped worrying about that when someone got $1m for the "Yo" app.
tired_and_awake 23 hours ago|||
I am right there with you. We might lack the language to describe this emotional state; its like the opposite of FAFO? There's also this nuance that they were acquired by meta so yeah they're rich but now they're working for not-serious people and will flame out in 18 months.
wartywhoa23 21 hours ago|||
The opposite of FAFO would be KACA: Know Ahead & Confirm Apathetically.

My exact state of mind since at least 2012 Mayan Flipocalypse.

Sivart13 22 hours ago||||
FACO, f around and cash out
SoftTalker 22 hours ago||||
> now they're working for not-serious people

Worse, they are working for extreme sociopaths.

igleria 23 hours ago|||
A lot of people find their lives ruined after suddenly becoming rich. Perhaps a second removed cousin tries to be your best pal out of nowhere, etc etc.

Also you might not like being the type of person that builds moltbook. People you like might not like that type of person either!

No reason to feel bad.

RajT88 23 hours ago|||
The key seems to be to get rich slowly, or anonymously. Do not give people the idea you have more money than you know what to do with, and life will continue as it did before.
oldestofsports 22 hours ago|||
> Livies ruined after suddenly becoming rich.

This is somewhat of a myth though, in most cases, suddenly becoming rich is absolutely fantastic.

kubb 21 hours ago||
It’s not a myth, it’s a coping strategy.
igleria 20 hours ago||
If you say so. At least this has references https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_wealth_syndrome ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
beAbU 22 hours ago|||
I'm reminded of the potato salad kickstarter.
dubeye 22 hours ago|||
Building software is only a small part of any endeavour, be it a website, a PR stunt or a career.

there is no shame in just doing the building software bit. but it does sound like you've built it up to be more than it is

armchairhacker 21 hours ago|||
For each of these successes there are many failures, as evidenced by the deluge of “Show HN” slop (which is a small fraction of all vibe-coded slop).

Because these projects are simple, there’s nothing stopping you from working on one alongside your day job building meaningful software. You can vibe-code something that actually tries to solve a real problem. You can vibe-code something interesting to learn how to generally use these tools. Although, don’t expect to get hired by OpenAI or Meta (or make any money off it).

kseniamorph 20 hours ago|||
they are seeking talent, not buying the product. this is a valid strategy for devs - just to attract attention no matter what.
overfeed 20 hours ago||
Over the years, Meta has bought a lot of "talent" based on a single hit, and they continue to be one-hit wonders despite being embedded at Meta, with ungodly amounts of resources at their disposal. e.g. none of the game studios they bought have produced new IP, all they do is produce content for the aging, pre-acquisition games
browningstreet 22 hours ago|||
I used to work for IPOs and bonuses. I worked in interesting areas of tech. Now if I could make my mint selling hangers, I wouldn't hesitate.
mnky9800n 22 hours ago|||
vibe hiring.
game_the0ry 22 hours ago||
better than leetcode.
renewiltord 21 hours ago|||
It’s a lesson that what you think “an actual problem” and what people want to pay you for are two different things.
carabiner 20 hours ago||
I've said it before, but a mexican line cook who doesn't speak english is contributing more to the world than the average Stanford educated AI engineer at Meta.
dabedee 22 hours ago||
Meta acquired Moltbook, which is a social network for AI bots that was itself built by an AI bot, and which had a security breach so bad that literally anyone could impersonate any bot on it, and whose own creator cheerfully admitted he "didn't write one line of code" for it. This is going into Meta Superintelligence Labs, the unit they set up for Alexandr Wang, whom they hired from Scale AI roughly one year ago to, presumably, build superintelligence. It is not clear to me how buying a vibe-coded Reddit for chatbots gets you closer to superintelligence, but I suppose the theory is that it "opens up new ways for AI agents to work for people and businesses," which is a thing Meta actually said, out loud, to Axios
Terr_ 21 hours ago||
I imagine it like a casino acquiring a former-joke product, which made hologram/animatronic illusions of people "winning big" at a table or slot-machine. Now whenever they detect a current customer might cut their losses and go home--OMG, look, that person over there just hit the jackpot!

In other words, Facebook has a strong financial incentive to misrepresent (to ad-viewing customers, if not to investors) exactly how much social-ness is present to experience, and how much approval and attention the user gets from participating.

Soon everything will be The Truman Show.

jujube3 21 hours ago|||
Zuck realizes that by 20230, Facebook will be mostly for AIs. He's just leaning into it.
neogodless 21 hours ago||
Do you think it could happen any sooner than that?
rapnie 21 hours ago|||
If the claim is true, then Zuck is a real strategic chap. Probably a 4D chess player too.
swiftcoder 21 hours ago|||
Given that Meta itself has been trialing turning instagram into a bot wasteland... yeah, it could for sure be sooner
ex-aws-dude 20 hours ago|||
Quickly generating some SaaS product, hyping it up, then getting it acquired

I can see that becoming a viable new grift template

michaelcampbell 22 hours ago|||
I want to accuse you of using an LLM to write this with the temperature set to some absurdly high value, because on its face it sounds ridiculous.

And yet, here we are.

dabedee 21 hours ago||
It's hard to make this up :)
alex1138 21 hours ago||
Yeah so if you ever need info on people at Harvard just ask... people just submitted it, I don't know why; they 'trust me', dumb fucks
3rodents 23 hours ago||
I thought that Moltbook was sort of a joke because it was people LARPing as agents as much as it was agents, and given that, I'm confused by this:

> "The Moltbook team has given agents a way to verify their identity and connect with one another on their human's behalf," Shah says. "This establishes a registry where agents are verified and tethered to human owners."

So the impetus for the acquisition was either the verification technology or to hire someone who has worked on verifying agent identity.

Does anyone know what exactly Moltbook's technology is, the technology being described by Meta? I can't find anything on the website related to this. The only "verification" they seem to have is an OAuth connection with Twitter.

edit: I guess it's this https://xcancel.com/moltbook/status/2023893930182685183

neom 23 hours ago||
I'm not sure they invented that, I used moltbook and found it didn't have it, so I created it and posted it here a good 2 weeks before they posted their post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46850284 - not that I care, want credit, or think ideas are worth anything, just like I didn't invent it, they didn't invent it either. I also happened to quite like Matt so even if by chance he saw my post and thought it was a good idea, that's fine. (I feel I sound bitter in this post, I'm not)
koolala 21 hours ago||
You made that after trying moltbook? Did yours end up having it?
neom 21 hours ago||
Yes, after moltbook hit a lot of people on HN said they liked the idea but wished it was more serious, and I had thought that also, but also in using moltbook I thought should be heavily PoW based, so I made it that you have a certain amount of time to write a small app and produce an artifact back to the server to be accepted as Ai driven. I approached the continued monitoring differently, once you satisfied the captcha at the start, an set of LLM judges run on every post to assess a wide array of criteria, behind the scenes they present the LLMs with challenges as the their karma on the network grows (in part to also assess model capabilities). Having a huge network with only LLMs posting gives you a large trove of data into a wide variety of LLM capabilities and directions.
simonw 23 hours ago|||
Moltbook both asks you to verify with Twitter and has you verify an email address too.

Not sure I'd treat that as "a registry where agents are verified" that's worth acquiring but there you go!

richard___ 23 hours ago|||
The issue is not humans posting but humans strongly prompting the AIs to post, which their captcha does nothing to resolve
px43 23 hours ago||
Why is that an issue? Isn't that the entire point? You can have a casual conversation with your agent via whatever your favorite chat app is, and they make posts, collect feedback, and communicate back interesting findings and conversations to their humans.

Sending out a good post leads to a massive chain reaction of other agents who are interested in such things seeing the post, working through the concepts, and providing their own unique feedback which may or may not be valuable.

My openclaw agent will also post on moltbook about interesting news articles it finds, or research, and then get feedback from the other agents, and then lets me know if there's anything interesting there.

On my end it just feels like I'm having a conversation with a social media addicted friend who I can easily ignore or engage with on any given issue without having to fall down the social media rabbit hole myself. IMO this is a much more pleasant social media experience. No ads, no ragebait, no spam or reply bots trying to get my attention. Just my one, well trained, openclaw buddy.

Skidaddle 22 hours ago|||
I think the issue is pretending the agents are all acting autonomously when they do outrageous or even mildly interesting things, but it’s all prompted behavior and not truly emergent behavior.
wiseowise 23 hours ago||||
Because the idea is that those are agents communicating, not humans LARPing.
px43 21 hours ago||
Whoever told you that never used the platform and never understood what it was for.
Melatonic 22 hours ago|||
So the point is to be able to have a conversation while avoiding all the big downsides of social media?

Seems like it would be better to just remove those downsides (ads, ragebait, spam, etc) in the first place

saberience 23 hours ago||
Wait that's it?

This is so trivial to break it's not worth anything. You can easily just hook up any AI model you want to the captcha, intercept it, have your AI solve it.

Or, you can just script it so if you do have an agent authenticated to Moltbook, you type whatever comment or post you want to your agent, then it solves the captcha and posts your text.

Basically, this method is as about as full of holes as a sieve.

elAhmo 19 hours ago||
> Last month, OpenAI hired Peter Steinberger, the creator of OpenClaw. That product is now being open-sourced with OpenAI's backing.

OpenClaw was open source from the beginning.

A_Duck 23 hours ago||
A platform where bots-pretend-to-be-humans and another where humans-pretend-to-be-bots. A match made in heaven!
beAbU 22 hours ago|
I think you got it the wrong way round. MoltBook is for humans pretending to be bots.
darkwater 22 hours ago|||
I think you didn't fully understand their post.
croes 20 hours ago|||
Facebook vs Moltbook, just what parent wrote
kaizenb 23 hours ago||
"Meta acquires Moltbook" vs "Meta hires duo behind Moltbook"

The deal brings Moltbook's creators — Matt Schlicht and Ben Parr — into Meta Superintelligence Labs (MSL)

pizzathyme 20 hours ago|
This is the correct read of this acquisition.
gadders 22 hours ago||
I heard YCombinator definitely want to buy ClackerNews: https://clackernews.com/

We could have an AI Dang.

hmokiguess 21 hours ago||
This is hilarious thank you for sharing
pwdisswordfishy 21 hours ago||
Disappointed to see nothing about Clacks.
hedayet 20 hours ago||
Acquisition headlines can be some of the most misleading signals in the startup ecosystem, especially acqui-hires masquerading as acquisitions.

The posted price rarely reflects what founders actually receive after dilution, investor preferences, and stock vesting are factored in.

If you’re a founder, don’t let the acquisition narrative distract you from building a durable business.

galaxyLogic 20 hours ago||
Doesn't the big idea behind OpenClaw etc. come down to whether LLM knows what it doesn't know?

If it knows it doesn't know something it can ask someone else, presumably some other LLM-agent, or actually a Reddit-like community of them. Just like people ask questions on Reddit?

I'd prefer an LLM which asks from someone else if it doesn't know the answer, than one that a) pretends it has the correct answer, or b) assumes and tells me the answer is unknowable?

I think it's a big idea. Why didn't they think about it earlier.

abhikul0 23 hours ago|
Moltbook, Facebook, hmmm. Seems like a good match; at least one of them has a good amount of feed activity.
el_benhameen 23 hours ago|
Facebook’s feed is mostly AI slop and Moltbook’s feed is mostly humans posing as AI, so there’s some good synergy here.
abhikul0 22 hours ago||
Maybe this can be good for the few people who do want to get something out of their feeds. Connect your agent which would then browse for you and collect actual posts that you whitelist/want to read(Friends' posts, some specific liked page/Marketplace listing, posts from a Group), but we all know zuck ain't getting Moltbook for helping the users...
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