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Posted by mmayberry 1 day ago

Meta acquires Moltbook(www.axios.com)
https://web.archive.org/web/20260310154640/https://www.axios..., https://archive.ph/igqsh

https://www.reuters.com/business/meta-acquires-ai-agent-soci...

https://techcrunch.com/2026/03/10/meta-acquired-moltbook-the...

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tylerchilds 1 day ago|
The metaverse: ai talking to each other over cli
MainlyMortal 1 day ago||
Have you seen Reddit recently? Every single subreddit is full of AI posts with AI replies. I'm actually convinced a large majority of that is Reddit themselves artificially boosting their engagement metrics. The saddest part is that the engagement makes it obvious that the general population can't differentiate between AI and real humans even with the telltale signs.
RulerOf 1 day ago|||
> Every single subreddit is full of AI posts with AI replies.

This has really started getting to me.

I used to really enjoy answering technical questions on Reddit when it was clear the asker was invested in a solution. That would come across as demonstrated understanding and competence, and it would be reflected in their writing.

The last several posts I thought to answer though clearly originated through a process of, "Hi ChatGPT, I want to solve a problem and haven't gotten anywhere asking you to do it for me. Please write a reddit post I can copy and paste..."

One of the telltale signs is that the post title will have poor grammar, but the post itself will be spotless, and full of bolded text emphasizing exactly what they need to stick into the AI tool to drive it in the direction they need.

eddythompson80 1 day ago||
It’s not just technical content. Just the other day I was reading a post by an employed homes guy on r/seattle. The post was about his experience of being both newly employed but still homeless.

The post was full of “this is not a scheduling conflict problem, this is a structural issue with the city”, “this is not me asking for a handout, this is struggling to survive within the system”

While I get that he might have written a paragraph of his experience, and asked ChatGPT to clean it up or reword it, it was just… whatever.

MainlyMortal 1 day ago||
This is exactly the type of thing I'm talking about and why I'm convinced it's about the metrics/engagement boosting. I don't believe for a second that real people are using chatgpt/others for rewording real thoughts even from another language because those phrases are not natural even in translation. You'll also notice in the original post that that it always ends with a question that encourage replies. If the original poster even bothers to reply it's always the "you're right" at the beginning and then rephrasing the reply. Once you've seen it you can't unsee it.
RulerOf 22 hours ago|||
You're absolutely.... that's a tired joke at this point. Sorry.

Just brainstorming, but I suppose that account/karma farming is still useful for the people that do that sort of thing.

Engaging in a heavily on-topic way in larger niche subreddits is probably a really good way to get that done. There's always a motive and it's always money and it always idiotic.

I remember having a clear vision of how this tech was going to ruin communities on the internet. I really hate that it has mostly come to pass and there's no good way to fight it.

incognito124 1 day ago||||
FWIW I've been saying this since before Covid times. I stopped visiting Reddit when they killed 3rd party clients, but I was certain 50% of conversations there were machine generated _back then_. It's gotta be worse now
ashdksnndck 1 day ago||||
There are also tons of comments written by AI on hacker news. There are whole discussions between AI bots arguing over whether AI is a sham.
moomoo11 17 hours ago|||
i've always said that humans are automatons, that's why sales is so freakin' easy once you realize that

most people are bots and many don't even have an internal monologue its sad

ninth_ant 1 day ago||
That actually sounds more interesting than the one Meta created previously.

But still not interesting.

tylerchilds 1 day ago||
I imagine they’ll be fused where moltbook agents become NPCs so that you’re no longer alone in VR but surrounded by a myriad of cognition fragments to feel less alone.
ardeaver 1 day ago||
There are many days where I feel like the right thing for my career is to focus on building meaningful software that solves an actual problem. Then there are days like today, especially after seeing this.
biznickman 1 day ago||
This is an awful read on this acquisition.

They didn't acquire Moltbook because of the software. Meta is far behind on the AI front especially as it applies to usage adoption. OpenClaw has begun showing new consumer use cases and Moltbook is directionally down a similar path.

They get the team that built it and have more people on the AI initiative who are consumer-centric.

I've watched Matt Schlicht from the team always experiment with cool new use cases of AI and other technologies and now him and Ben have a bigger lab with resources to potentially spawn out larger initiatives.

The lesson here is to spend less time focused on doing what you think is the right thing and spend more time tinkering.

bentt 23 hours ago|||
If they ever do anything again it will be a miracle. Meta is where smart people go to trade in their ambition and morals for stock grants and golden handcuffs.
percentcer 21 hours ago|||
it's not a bad trade!
mcmcmc 20 hours ago||
Trading away your morals is definitely bad in a philosophical sense. Does selling your soul to the devil have a happy ending in any of the fairy tales?
hatsix 19 hours ago||
I would trade in my ambition, though.
joe_mamba 21 hours ago|||
>Meta is where smart people go to trade in their ambition and morals for stock grants and golden handcuffs.

Only Meta? Why not most of SV that's driven by ad revenue and data collection? Which big-tech company that pays crazy money is actually making the world a better place?

bcye 20 hours ago||
Meta is so driven by it though that it alone holds more than 5 of the 10 largest GDPR fines.
joe_mamba 20 hours ago||
Meta didn't get a school targeted and bombed this past week. So I don't think GDPR fines issued by an unelected government body supporting Israel's genocide and hypocritically supporting dictators war crimes who are not Putin in exchange for cheap fossil fuels that aren't Russian, is an objective measurement of morality. Because it's not.

EU government is not Pius, it's just as corrupt as any other institution run by career politicians funded by lobbyists. Find a better yardstick of morality than GDPR fines.

Edit: why flagged? I don't care about points, just want to know what goes through people's heads.

gavinray 23 hours ago||||
I genuinely don't understand OpenClaw

It's a worse version of Claude Code that you set up to work over common chat apps, from what I gather?

Why would I not just use a Discord/WhatsApp bot etc plugged into Claude Code/Codex?

threecheese 22 hours ago|||
First you have to agree that Claude Code might be useful for some non-repo task, like helping with your taxes or organizing your bookmarks.

Next, consider how you might deploy isolated Claude Code instances for these specific task areas, and manage/scale that - hooks, permissions, skills, commands, context, and the like - and wire them up to some non-terminal i/o so you can communicate with them more easily. This is the agent shape.

Now, give these agents access to long term memory, some notion of a personality/guiding principles, and some agency to find new skills and even self-improve. You could leave this last part out and still have something valuable.

That’s Openclaw in a nutshell. Yes you could just plug Discord into Claude Code, add a cron job for analyzing memory, a soul.md, update some system prompts, add some shell scripts to manage a bunch of these, and you’d be on the same journey that led Peter to Openclaw.

lucrbvi 23 hours ago||||
I share the feeling; but people using it are mostly non-technicals (despite the 50+ config files lol) and are just runing it constantly to do random things.

But a message bot + Claude Code/Codex would be the better version

joe_mamba 21 hours ago||
>but people using it are mostly non-technicals

Non-technical people haven't even heard of OpenClaw or Github, let alone know how to use and deploy them. Non-technical people don't even know what OS their Samsung or iPhone is called.

If you can find something on Github and deploy it on your system, you're part of the technical crowd.

firecall 21 hours ago||
Well…. In my experience that’s not exactly true!

My hairdresser knew all about it and had ordered a Mac mini.

I have been surprised at how much attention is being paid to this AI thing by pretty much everybody AFAICT.

joe_mamba 20 hours ago||
>My hairdresser knew all about it and had ordered a Mac mini.

Your hairdresser can't be a technical person because they're a hairdresser ?? I know a surgeon who writes FOSS software as a hobby. What does profession have to do with being technical or not? Most technical people are self taught anyway.

firecall 19 hours ago||
Thats a hot take LOL

> https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > In Comments > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

No, I'm saying they are not a 'technical person'.

I know them very well, and they are not a coder, or a 'technical person' by a broad HN definition.

What I'm saying is that we are at the point where technology is so pervasive in our society, and the lure of AI so seductive, that many more people are excited to try things out than I might have expected.

I suppose it has similarities to the early to mid 1980s and the home computing revolution. Where many people thought they should have a computer at home, even if they were not sure what they'd do with it.

Much like the excitement around AI today!

joe_mamba 9 hours ago||
Why are you pointing out the rules? Did anyone break them?
bmurphy1976 22 hours ago||||
You forgot the part where you give it unfiltered access to everything.

(Not that I endorse that. I find peoope doing such wildly irresponsible.)

burningChrome 20 hours ago||
Had someone at work as me about this and they visibly cringed with I told them its my understanding you let the agent unfettered access to everything on your machine so it can do a lot more stuff than say a Siri can.

They immediately said, "Why in the fuck would I want to do that?"

I didn't know either and then we both stood there in an awkward silence. I think he was expecting OpenClaw to be some insanely cool AI Agent and discovering the "juice isn't worth the squeeze" kind of hit him harder than I expected.

criddell 23 hours ago||||
Here you are giving away billion dollar ideas.
kaizenb 23 hours ago||
ツ
jacobra2 21 hours ago||||
IMO OpenClaw's innovation is in

1) accessibility to non-technical folks. For the first time, they are having the Claude Code experience that we've had as software engineers for some time now

2) shared, community token context. Many end users are contributing to one agent's context together. This has emergent properties

gavinray 21 hours ago||

  > accessibility to non-technical folks. 
When I read the setup docs, it required configuring a bunch of API keys in setting files though?
cesarvarela 19 hours ago|||
There are technicals and "technicals"
eclipxe 21 hours ago|||
No it doesn't, it walks you through that in setup flow.
tavavex 22 hours ago|||
Does it only work with chat apps? I've never used it, but I thought all the hype was from it being promoted as the first real general-purpose PC-using layer that could run on anything. What can it run on then?
eclipxe 21 hours ago||
No, it has a web interface, Mac app, etc.
cimi_ 1 day ago||||
> They get the team that built it and have more people on the AI initiative who are consumer-centric.

Who are comfortable releasing systems with horrible security, while proudly stating they never read the code? And with metrics that can be gamed by anyone, but that got reported to literally the entire world?

> The lesson here is to spend less time focused on doing what you think is the right thing and spend more time tinkering.

I'd say the lesson here is that clown world keeps on giving, but hey, maybe I'm just jealous ;)

ryandrake 1 day ago|||
It feels like the clowns have been winning my entire career.
brentm 1 day ago||
Clowns get the attention and the attention usually makes for winners.
DebtDeflation 23 hours ago||||
Could you imagine giving MetaClaw full access to your local file system, email, web browser, and all other applications? What could possibly go wrong.
kaizenb 23 hours ago||
Thought and came up with nothing.
CuriouslyC 1 day ago|||
The only currency in a world where AI does everything is your ability to get human attention. So from that perspective moltbook is a huge success.

If Mark hired these people to do anything other than viral marketing, i.e. if he thinks they're visionaries who are going to make amazing apps, he's deluded.

samiv 1 day ago|||
You're so right.

You can already see how the same thing has played out with computer games. With the modern engines such as Unity almost anyone can make a game. And almost everyone suffers.

And as a result there's now a million games most of which are poor quality asset flips. Everybody suffers, creators and consumers. Race to the bottom where the bottom has been reached. Prices are zero and earnings are zero.

If 15 years ago an indie game dev would allocate 80% to making the game and 20% to marketing etc. Today that will not get anything but it's much better to spend 20% on the game and 80% on the marketing, SEO optimization and attention harvesting. It's a shouting match where it's all about winning the shouting match not producing the best content.

Another race to the bottom.

armchairhacker 1 day ago|||
There are millions of asset flips, but the top indie games have never been better. It’s hard for indie developers because there’s so much competition: you need to heavily promote a quality game only because there are so many other quality games.

Likewise these tools have enabled many more people to create vibe-coded slop, and may lead to more quality software (making it harder to stand out without marketing), but the best software will only get better.

sethops1 23 hours ago||
The implication is that the gatekeeping has become marketing dollars, when it used to be skill at making a fun game. I don't think we're in a better situation today.
armchairhacker 23 hours ago||
There are fun games that succeed without marketing, e.g. Balatro, and there are bad games that fail despite it, e.g. Highguard.

The reason that “skill at making a fun game” doesn’t guarantee success is because there are so many fun games. Much less, if at all, because there is so many slop.

charcircuit 17 hours ago||
Balatro did marketing and were extremely successful at it getting gigantic content creators to play their game.
WA 1 day ago||||
idk, indie games that come to my attention seem to be very polished. Which one is successful and fits your criteria?
slumberlust 1 day ago|||
I disagree that accessibility is a detractor here.

There's never been a better time to be an indie dev. I'd rather have 1/1000 indie games be awesome than being force fed whatever storefront disguised as a game 'AAA' publishers poop out every year.

Just look at how slay the spire is doing up against marathon right now. Which of those was shouting the loudest? Highguard anyone?

PaulHoule 23 hours ago||
I'll second this.

It is true that the indy game market is brutal but it's always been brutal.

You don't really hear about a crisis at the indy game level though, rather at the AAA game level there is much of "we'd like to use our market power to take out the risk in game development" and then years later we realize they took out all the value before they took out the risk and now they're doomed.

toomuchtodo 1 day ago|||
Mark got lucky enough once he can be wrong the rest of his life and still not be exposed to a cost for it. Purpose of the system is what it does.
PaulHoule 23 hours ago||
... I think he's got an affinity for other people and organizations that have succeeded in the same way. The idea that somebody out there might have a workmanlike approach to life and be able to get consistent results at something would be a threat to his worldview.
KaiserPro 22 hours ago||||
Having been acquired by facebook, its a pretty accurate read.

If they land in the right org, they'll be allowed to maintain the open version (see https://www.mapillary.com/) However that's a rare outcome.

They'll be dumped in some org, and then bit by bit told that they can't do what they were doing before and now need to "forge alignment" or some other bullshit by posting on workplace.

They will need to deliver impact, But, as there are 3 other teams trying to do the same thing as you, you'll either be used as a battering ram by your org to smash the competition, or offered up as meat to save headcount.

classified 23 hours ago||||
> They get the team that built it and have more people on the AI initiative who are consumer-centric.

Whom are you kidding? This is about getting ads in front of eyeballs, nothing else.

liangzhihaver 1 day ago||||
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biznickman 1 day ago||
uhhh that's a wild take
tayo42 1 day ago||||
This whole site is full of tinkerers and I'm pretty almost none are getting rich off it or having their projects go anywhere.
margin-dash 1 day ago|||
Good take
RajT88 1 day ago|||
It is like musical one hit wonders, but for software.

Some dumb idea which just hits at the right moment and makes a bunch of money.

tartoran 1 day ago|||
Does anyone remember the Iphone IFart app that was sold for $1 million?
zooweemama 1 day ago||
Probably not because it never happened. They did try to sell it though.
matsemann 23 hours ago||
The person that got the top spot for "flashlight" in the app store back in the days made about $600k on it before apple made it a built in function. Just copied existing apps and got lucky. https://www.vg.no/nyheter/i/92ybl/erik-ble-app-millionaer-de...
fantasizr 1 day ago||||
it's the AI wave of the original viral app store apps like "Yo" and "I am Rich".
songshu 22 hours ago||
To this day I swear I want Yo. I’d use it daily.
pocksuppet 15 hours ago||||
It's not even one hit software. The software is horrible. It's a one hit PR website.
shadowgovt 1 day ago||||
In this case in particular it looks like an acquihire.

Meta just saw two engineers actually execute on the joke about "building Facebook in a weekend" except that it then really took off in its target niche and generated a ton of press.

I don't doubt that they're interested in the AI aspect, but I suspect that a significant contributor was that they demonstrated competence right in the middle of Meta's wheelhouse so why not just grab these guys?

entropicdrifter 1 day ago||
It's also part of their longer-term trend of buying or burying any company that starts to get any press as a social media site of note outside of major players where that hasn't been an option.
Marsymars 1 day ago||
This is really it. At Meta's scale, even if it's an long-shot for a competitor to hurt them, it's worth turning those low odds into zero odds.
alex1138 23 hours ago||
Yet Zuck can somehow argue with a straight face FB has competition (apparently they straight up used to delete links to competitors like Google+ at the time, and also the constant copying of Snapchat) and Hacker News can split hairs over trivial definitions like "wdym fb no competition? email exists" or whatever
ohyoutravel 1 day ago|||
Those “early” ai generated avatars created from you sending in a handful of your own photos. Absolutely printed money, hit right as mildly technical people could use the tech + the tech was developed enough, but before normal people could easily do it.
tired_and_awake 1 day ago|||
I am right there with you. We might lack the language to describe this emotional state; its like the opposite of FAFO? There's also this nuance that they were acquired by meta so yeah they're rich but now they're working for not-serious people and will flame out in 18 months.
wartywhoa23 1 day ago|||
The opposite of FAFO would be KACA: Know Ahead & Confirm Apathetically.

My exact state of mind since at least 2012 Mayan Flipocalypse.

tavavex 22 hours ago||||
> There's also this nuance that they were acquired by meta so yeah they're rich but now they're working for not-serious people and will flame out in 18 months.

For the lack of a better word, this feels like cope. In the modern world, being rich easily covers any of those other 'downsides'. Rich people will have a far better life than I and probably many other people here ever will, despite what the situation is like in the rest of their lives.

Sivart13 1 day ago||||
FACO, f around and cash out
SoftTalker 1 day ago||||
> now they're working for not-serious people

Worse, they are working for extreme sociopaths.

jmye 22 hours ago||
And with even more.
igleria 1 day ago|||
A lot of people find their lives ruined after suddenly becoming rich. Perhaps a second removed cousin tries to be your best pal out of nowhere, etc etc.

Also you might not like being the type of person that builds moltbook. People you like might not like that type of person either!

No reason to feel bad.

RajT88 1 day ago|||
The key seems to be to get rich slowly, or anonymously. Do not give people the idea you have more money than you know what to do with, and life will continue as it did before.
oldestofsports 1 day ago|||
> Livies ruined after suddenly becoming rich.

This is somewhat of a myth though, in most cases, suddenly becoming rich is absolutely fantastic.

kubb 1 day ago||
It’s not a myth, it’s a coping strategy.
igleria 23 hours ago||
If you say so. At least this has references https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_wealth_syndrome ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
jrjeksjd8d 1 day ago|||
In the past ten years I have been frustrated by the tension between working on "interesting" or "important" stuff and working on dumb trendy shit. With the current LLM trend everything has become dumb trendy sshit, which has made the decision simpler.
beAbU 1 day ago|||
I'm reminded of the potato salad kickstarter.
PaulHoule 23 hours ago|||
It's easy to dismiss as more A.I. FOMO. I mean, Meta's AI has half the IQ of ChatGPT or Gemini. However, a fake social network full of generated content might well be a solution for Meta's problems where their userbase inevitably doesn't measure up to what they wish it would.
jmye 22 hours ago||
Was going to cynically suggest they were just going to merge the two sites and then pretend they had higher user counts at their next earnings, but adding even more (better?) fake content is probably the more plausible idea.
mvc 1 day ago|||
Ha! I stopped worrying about that when someone got $1m for the "Yo" app.
dubeye 1 day ago|||
Building software is only a small part of any endeavour, be it a website, a PR stunt or a career.

there is no shame in just doing the building software bit. but it does sound like you've built it up to be more than it is

mnky9800n 1 day ago|||
vibe hiring.
game_the0ry 1 day ago||
better than leetcode.
browningstreet 1 day ago|||
I used to work for IPOs and bonuses. I worked in interesting areas of tech. Now if I could make my mint selling hangers, I wouldn't hesitate.
armchairhacker 1 day ago|||
For each of these successes there are many failures, as evidenced by the deluge of “Show HN” slop (which is a small fraction of all vibe-coded slop).

Because these projects are simple, there’s nothing stopping you from working on one alongside your day job building meaningful software. You can vibe-code something that actually tries to solve a real problem. You can vibe-code something interesting to learn how to generally use these tools. Although, don’t expect to get hired by OpenAI or Meta (or make any money off it).

Arcuru 23 hours ago|||
Could be worse, you could be stuck working at Meta.
gcheong 23 hours ago|||
Maybe not our careers, but probably our souls.
kseniamorph 1 day ago|||
they are seeking talent, not buying the product. this is a valid strategy for devs - just to attract attention no matter what.
overfeed 1 day ago|||
Over the years, Meta has bought a lot of "talent" based on a single hit, and they continue to be one-hit wonders despite being embedded at Meta, with ungodly amounts of resources at their disposal. e.g. none of the game studios they bought have produced new IP, all they do is produce content for the aging, pre-acquisition games
ardeaver 5 hours ago|||
You're not wrong, I just wish you were lmao
renewiltord 1 day ago|||
It’s a lesson that what you think “an actual problem” and what people want to pay you for are two different things.
carabiner 23 hours ago||
I've said it before, but a mexican line cook who doesn't speak english is contributing more to the world than the average Stanford educated AI engineer at Meta.
tommis 1 day ago||
I think the medical term for this is synchronous malignancies
runjake 1 day ago||
https://archive.is/igqsh
mrkramer 1 day ago||
I had a similar idea where AI bots run its own social network and talk to each other but my AI social network would be more realistic (human-like) e.g. AI Instagram-like network where AI bots would share their photos and comment on each other posts.
perfmode 23 hours ago|
Go for it!
ramoz 1 day ago||
I don't think anybody at Meta involved in the aquisition must be an avid OpenClaw user or developer.

Moltbook was more of a meme - agents mostly orchestrated by users in the background.

Not something with motion like OpenClaw itself (with a real community).

galaxyLogic 23 hours ago||
Doesn't the big idea behind OpenClaw etc. come down to whether LLM knows what it doesn't know?

If it knows it doesn't know something it can ask someone else, presumably some other LLM-agent, or actually a Reddit-like community of them. Just like people ask questions on Reddit?

I'd prefer an LLM which asks from someone else if it doesn't know the answer, than one that a) pretends it has the correct answer, or b) assumes and tells me the answer is unknowable?

I think it's a big idea. Why didn't they think about it earlier.

pllbnk 10 hours ago||
Corporations really have too much money to throw away at crap like this. It would be better collected in taxes and spent on public utilities.
zemo 1 day ago||
Meta could not get more uncool
throwaway27448 12 hours ago|
I had never heard of "Moldtbook" before now. Facebook is absolutely insane for making this move. Why would you buy a fake website?
Nevermark 12 hours ago|
Because it isn't fake?

Those are real language models. Prompted into character by humans, but then given a lot of freedom.

Fake would be all of us typing to each other on this site and identifying as language models. At least, I am not a language model and I hope everyone else here isn't a language model.

In all seriousness, Moltbook is a start of something interesting and big. Maybe a very small start of something big, but already interesting.

throwaway27448 12 hours ago|||
> Fake would be all of us typing to each other on this site and identifying as language models

This absolutely is a staple of moltbook.

> In all seriousness, Moltbook is a start of something interesting and big.

Sure, if you think fraud is interesting and big.

In the meantime let's have fun bro https://soundcloud.com/mjfresh/500-gouyad-ft-colmixddkeyz

FrozenSynapse 11 hours ago|||
This is a complete scam. They didn’t even protect the API tokens, and when the author was informed that Moltbook exposes all API keys, they claimed they would tell the AI to fix it and he doesn't care.
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