Posted by usefulposter 1 day ago
I've been pretty wary about flagging AI slop that wasn't breaking other guidelines, and by default this will probably make me do it more. But it is a lot harder to be certain about something being AI-written than it is to judge other types of rules violations.
(But am definitely flagging every single "this was written by AI" joke comment posted on this story. What the hell is wrong with you people?)
@dang, if you read this, why don't we implement honeypots to catch bots? Like having an empty or invisible field while posting/commenting that a human would never fill in
I hope to see more bots on there (and not here)
You may also notice that I don't have much common history here. I mostly comment on Reddit.
Here's where I draw the line. If you are not reading the text that is produced by the LLM, then I don't want to read whatever it is that you wrote. I will usually only do one or two iterations of my comment, but afterwards I will usually edit it by hand.
Technically, there is light AI editing of this comment because FUTO keyboard has the ability to enable a transformer model that will capitalize, punctuate, and just generally remove filler words and make it so that it's not a hyper-literal transcription.
I want the raw tokens straight out of your head. Even if they are lower quality, they contain something that LLMs can never generate: authenticity. When we surrender our thoughts to a machine to be sanitized before publication, we lose a little of what it means to be human, and so does everyone who reads what we write.
Part of the joy of reading is to wallow in a writer's idiosyncrasies. If everybody ends up writing the same way, AI companies will have succeeded in laundering all the joy from this world.
So develop and fund and use AI but manually paraphrase things and don't cite AI?
It is best to cite a source and/or a method.
Do you think it is better to paraphrase and not cite AI?
I don't recall encountering posts on HN that I've wanted to flag as AI.
Have you considered this?
If people do not cite their sources or methods when they use AI, then we will not know where error was introduced by paraphrasing AI.
If they say "no" to "did you use AI", they're probably not correct and/or lying.
But you may not cite or quote or link to AI generated work?
> If people do not cite their sources or methods when they use AI, then we will not know where error was introduced by paraphrasing AI.
1. No AI comments without a human in the loop.
2. Please cite. Please cite when you use AI so that others can trace the errors and evaluate the premises of the argument. An argument has premises and a logical form.
We should expect the frequency of AI errors like hallucinations to decrease and accuracy to increase over time.
You should always consider peer review and getting another opinion regardless of whether AI or ML were used.
Do you need to cite AI?
If scientific reproducibility is necessary or important for your application,
You should also cite search queries, search results at that time, the name and version and software package hash of each software tool, the configuration parameters for each software tool, the URL and hash of the data, and whether you used spell check or autocorrect or an AI grammar service.
If you use an (AI) grammar service, you should disclose the model name and version, model hash or Merkle hash, and the model parameters.
But most people don't even cite URLs here; it's just people making unsupported arguments.
Robot walks into a bar
Orders a drink, lays down a bill
Bartender says, "Hey, we don't serve robots"
And the robot says, "Oh, but someday you will"