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Posted by billybuckwheat 3 days ago

Wired headphone sales are exploding(www.bbc.com)
390 points | 645 commentspage 3
egorelik 6 hours ago|
Back when I still thought all headphones were basically the same, I was writing some music and I could not understand why the cello lines sounded so much louder than the violin lines at the same dynamic. It was only years later that I found out that mainstream headphones are tuned to boost the bass, which is supposedly the mainstream taste.

If your tastes in music are not mainstream (and mine definitely is not), mainstream headphones will ruin your music more than you realize - for years I just thought that was how recorded music is supposed to sound, and it wasn't very good. Trying a neutrally-tuned headphone can change your (musical) life. Unfortunately, very few wireless headphones are tuned that way.

Edit: Part of why I never looked into it sooner, I had heard so much about "audiophile snake oil" over the years, I thought that was all there was. That exists, but there plenty of headphones marketed to "audiophiles" that are legitimate.

w4rh4wk5 6 hours ago||
Are there recommendations on USB-C to 3.5mm adapters, preferably ones with input and output? My biggest complain with Bluetooth headphones is the astonishingly bad quality when doing voice calls.
jhoho 6 hours ago||
As usual, the Apple design is a great baseline: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/r...

It doesn't provide full volume output under Android, though.

Otherwise, the CS43131 DAC powers some great designs. I can't comment on their durability, though. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/j...

as367 6 hours ago||
See if Apple's USB-C to 3.5mm adapter works for you.
ysleepy 3 hours ago|||
The samsung one is usually easier. On non-apple devices the volume is very limited, especially in the EU version.
w4rh4wk5 6 hours ago|||
Thanks for pointing this one out.

I am hesitant to buy Apple accessories like these as I am having quality concerns. Specifically the macbook chargers I've encountered are far less rigid than Lenovo Thinkpad chargers (at least before they switched to USB-C). I never felt Apple did a particularly good job with cables and connectors when it comes to longevity.

hetspookjee 2 hours ago||
I bought a bunch of wired cables as switching devices and making sure Teams is able to work with the device never worked smoothly with Bluetooth. I only miss wireless when i get snagged or the wires are entangled but both are easy to prevent and all the benefits of wired far outweigh the wireless setbacks
jwilliams 5 hours ago||
I like to do walking meetings or meetings where I'm cleaning/emptying dishwasher/etc. It sounds strange, but I'm a lot more present than when I'm at my computer.

Anyway. Somewhat ironically, I use a wired set of headphones for this. It's not just the speakers that are better. I often get people remarking how much better the audio is on their end too... i.e. the cheap inline microphone.

manmal 4 hours ago|
That has probably more to do with the microphone(s) rather than that it's wired. Voice is not a problem at Bluetooth bitrates.
jwilliams 4 hours ago||
I suspect it’s mostly microphone position rather than anything else (the headphones I have are the basic Apple ones).
thehours 13 hours ago||
Sony WH1000XM5 headphones are my daily driver, mainly Zoom calls and music. I'm generally pretty happy with them, but one big gripe I have is when I'm on a call and briefly take off my headphones to e.g. chat with someone in the room, there is like a 90% chance they stop working and I have to reconnect them.

It happens so often I even wrote a script to switch to the MacBook internal speakers then back to the headphones.

I've used wired headphones before (and the Sony even has a wired option), but I didn't like how the cord was constantly getting the the way of my arms.

edit: Another big gripe is with the Bluetooth codec itself, and how the quality changes depending on if the mic is active.

pxtail 12 hours ago||
Thank you, this brings me a feeling of relief because after constantly dealing with various wireless bt headphone issues when using linux it frequented my mind that surely on the other side of the fence people don't have this kind of problems.
Kwpolska 12 hours ago||
You can use the Sound Connect app to disable auto pause and auto power off.
rcMgD2BwE72F 11 hours ago||
You don't need the proprietary and data-collecting app. I'm using GadgetBridge to configure the 1000XM5 (along with my Garmin Forerunner) and it works great!
siva7 1 day ago||
Headphones were a solved problem. I had 20 years ago some high end IEM that i used back in the days on on so called mp3 players - those were pocket sized music players - and since apple released the airpods and bluetooth headphones were the new standard audio quality never recovered to the state we had two decades ago
cyberrock 10 hours ago||
It wasn't a solved issue because 3.5mm is too anemic to power modern ANC. Remember when headphones like QC15 had a single AAA battery to power that? Maybe it's not an important feature to everyone, but ANC is critical to my experience on long distance transportation.

Multipoint is also cool too. I like listening to music, taking a call, going to the toilet, and coming back to music all without doing anything.

If there's a silver lining to the last 15 years, it's that replaceable cables became a standard feature and that there are IEMs with direct USB C cables now. If/when Moondrop/KZ/Linsoul release IEMs that can be used like wireless earbuds with ANC, and can also connect and recharge via USB C, they can just take my money.

bob1029 23 hours ago||
iPod Shuffle + Shure SE215 was the pinnacle of portable audio. The ritual of maintaining a separate playlist that would actually fit made it intentional. Allowing Spotify to slip into an infinite stream of slop is so easy these days.
ortusdux 23 hours ago||
The trick is to use Google music. The recommendation algorithm is so bad that your brain rejects the slop it thinks you will like.
volemo 15 hours ago||
Can someone recommend USBC earbuds with good ANC? Sometimes I’d love to avoid battery and interference concerns of Bluetooth, but noise cancellation became a must-have for me.
luag 14 hours ago|
Is in-ear ok? With IEMs, you'll get passive noise canceling that I've found more than enough for most situations.

I have a pair of IEM with the usb-c converter attached most of the time for use with phones.

Give Truthear Hexa a try.

duskdozer 10 hours ago||
For me, it isn't, I need ANC also. This is the thing sticking me with wireless because as far as I can tell, the best ANC are all wireless.
dutchCourage 11 hours ago||
I'm also team USB-C wired earbuds (the Apple ones are cheap and solid, mic is also nice for calls) for podcasts and commute.

I never stopped using wired headphones at home but also had BT ones on the go. When they started showing signs of age I got a cheap BT receiver instead of replacing them. It's not quite as practical but for many people it's something to consider, they work surprisingly well!

zeta0134 10 hours ago|
I'm firmly on team "dual USB port" for this problem. We do this on computers, which can then perfectly well charge and play audio at the same time. Why not phones? It seems like there's plenty of space for a second port.
catlikesshrimp 9 hours ago||
the usb port is much more complicated than a 3.5mm port. It is more expensive, it takes more space. Do you add another real port or a built in hub? (they would go with the latter, probably)

The advantage is you have a backup port.

merelysounds 11 hours ago||
Anecdote, I like wired headphones for important online calls. I use earpods[1], I started using them back when they came with a phone, I'm happy that it's still possible to buy replacements. I like having a reliable wired connection that works and disconnects predictably.

I guess a lot of that is nostalgia. My laptop model no longer has a webcam cover or a physical network switch; connecting and disconnecting the trrs[2] cable reminds me of these.

But some of that is still practical needs. I have AirPods and Bose wireless headphones, both praised for reliable connections. Every now and then they take a bit longer to connect or the volume changes unpredictably, or they need to be charged, etc - when wired headphones just work.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_headphones#EarPods

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_connector_(audio)#TRRS_s...

blep-arsh 10 hours ago|
I very much appreciate it when people use wired headphones with a decent mic for calls. Speech clarity is just so much better even with Earpods compared to tws earplugs.
nickjj 10 hours ago|
I have 2 wired headphones.

My main ones are Sony MDR-V6s which I've had for 10 years. They are the best headphones I've ever owned and they sound just as good today as they did a decade ago. They were originally made in 1985 and the wire never tangles.

The other are crappy $8 earbuds / mic combo that are maybe 7 years old and work just fine.

I have wireless earbuds that I occasionally use since the Pixel 9a has no 3.5mm jack. They are worse in every way that I care about. I have to babysit them to make sure they are charged.

Sure the wired earbuds get tangled sometimes but it's not a big deal to address that. I also think wired is an advantage for portable usage. For example, for running or doing any activity the wire ensures if they fall out of your ear you won't lose them. They also don't need a case so you can stuff them anywhere without a bulge.

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