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Posted by remywang 17 hours ago

Show HN: s@: decentralized social networking over static sites(satproto.org)
387 points | 186 commentspage 3
Goofy_Coyote 13 hours ago|
Very interesting idea, love the simplicity.

Question about this:

“Threads are positioned in the timeline by the original post’s created_at; replies within a thread are sorted by their own created_at ascending.”

Does this mean, I, as the person replying to the post can manipulate my reply time to say, 3 minutes before person X’s reply?

If so, I can imagine a few adversarial ways of (ab)using this.

I understand this is more for friend groups, just curious if my understanding is correct.

remywang 12 hours ago|
Yes that's correct.

edit: I guess an easy fix is to append a cryptographic hash to the post ID, but yeah currently I'm assuming you trust your friends.

vaylian 10 hours ago||
This is intriguing. But I wish there was a rationale/philosophy document on that site, that explains what the intentions and use-cases behind this project are. Given that cryptography is such a fundamental part of the design, I wonder if public posts are not desired.
hxii 8 hours ago||
So, in essence this is very, very similar to TWTXT (https://github.com/buckket/twtxt).

I'd imagine that similarly to TWTXT, this suffers from the same accessibility and barrier of entry issues. It's one thing when all you have to do is type text in a textbox and click "Submit", but it's a whole thing entirely when you have to screw around with updating your website to do anything.

clarkqaq 4 hours ago||
Nostr?!

https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr

est 15 hours ago||
Seems a bit complicated.

Why not use git for social networking ;)

https://github.com/est/gitweets

hrmtst93837 7 hours ago|
Git-based systems sound clever until you hit the delights of merge conflicts and history rewrites from trolling or spam. Propagating edits or deletes in a decentralized social network via git is a full-time job for bots unless you limit activity to a few dozen people who never disagree. Static sites dodge a lot of cross-user sync pain at the cost of making anything dynamic feel like pulling teeth with chopsticks.
koolala 14 hours ago||
Signed JSON reminds me of Nostr. I wish Nostr was somehow more mainstream.
lovvtide 13 hours ago|
I laughed when I saw this because two years ago I built a nostr client called Satellite! https://satellite.earth/
iamnothere 3 hours ago||
Satellite is great, thanks for making it. Glad to see you on here.
lovvtide 1 hour ago||
What's your npub?
dwedge 9 hours ago||
Unless this is just a PoC, you could benefit from a discovery mechanism. As much as that sounds like a webring for github, I'm probably not going to deploy a social network without knowing if anyone else is using it.
flaxxer 14 hours ago||
Nostr https://nostr.com/
DANmode 14 hours ago|
Real question for people who know what they’re talking about:

is perfect forward secrecy no longer considered valuable?

cassonmars 13 hours ago||
PFS is valuable largely in stable, small groups that rarely change shape or association.

PFS in an open, freely-associable environment is far more complicated when you move beyond even the smallest of group sizes. Realistically, once the group size is beyond Dunbar's number you can reasonably assume that PFS is moot, because you no longer can depend on maybe four or five people's personal security, but 150+. Statistically, someone's opsec failure will be guaranteed.

andros 8 hours ago||
It reminds me a lot of Org Social
dharmatech 15 hours ago|
See also org social:

https://github.com/tanrax/org-social

iamnothere 15 hours ago|
Thanks for this, nice concept. This would be good on a Tor onion service.
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