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Posted by eieio 2 hours ago

Bubble Sorted Amen Break(parametricavocado.itch.io)
138 points | 54 comments
Retr0id 57 minutes ago|
I wish it'd play through the whole thing in order at the end
eieio 2 hours ago||
(the amen break is one of the most commonly-sampled drum breaks in popular music: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amen_break)
zonkerdonker 2 hours ago|
And a tragic story at that:

>Coleman died homeless and destitute in 2006. It was unlikely he was aware of the impact he had made on music. Neither he [band leader Spencer] nor Coleman received royalties for the break.

hnlmorg 2 hours ago|||
I’ve heard conflicting accounts about their knowledge and royalties.

While I’m certain they didn’t receive royalties from all artists, I heard many 80s artists did. And Amen Brothers took others to court. So they would have know about the use of the break.

I will admit I haven’t done any independent research into this matter personally. Just echoing accounts I’ve read and taking their reports at face value.

legitster 42 minutes ago||||
"Samples" were kind of like musical memes in the 1980s. What made for a good sample had a lot more to do with convenience and luck. The sounds that were picked for drum samples had more to do with how useful they were - the dynamic range, how isolated the drums are, how easy they were to mix.

The other famous drum sample - the "Funky Drummer" as drummed by Clyde Stubblefield for James Brown, Stubblefield didn't think the particular drum pattern he used was particularly noteworthy. In that case, James Brown's production choices were actually more key - his signature sound revolved around really crisp drums that he insisted needed to be clear on AM Radio and Jukeboxes. Which is what made it so useful for sampling.

tialaramex 1 hour ago|||
A reminder that your society will be judged not on how the most fortunate lived but how the least fortunate lived. Context still matters but there's a meaningful difference between "Anne Brontë died of Consumption (Tuberculosis), at that time there was no cure" and "Dave died of TB, he couldn't afford the cure at current market prices".
creative-9 20 minutes ago|||
This is our manifesto. We are creative people. Here is our strategy for advancing creative work and supporting the people who do it.

We upvote comments that completely miss the point of how this algorithm works. We upvote comments that claim the algorithm does nothing at all. We downvote comments about how the creator of the original drum break died destitute.

fragmede 38 minutes ago||||
What is a mote in such a society to do though? Dave couldn't afford the cure, but neither can I. What do you suggest I do to make it affordable for both of us?
verisimi 56 minutes ago|||
Sure. Which is your society though?
staplung 2 hours ago||
Cool, but I don't see how it's sorting anything. It just seems to play a randomized arrangement of the slices. You can re-randomize as much as you like but there's no sort option as far as I can see.
joeypickles 2 hours ago||
It randomizes slices of the sample and begins to play the slices in the random order. Meanwhile it begins the bubble sort algorithm at a pace that matches the tempo, sorting the slices into their chronological order. Throughout, it only plays the unsorted slices. (I was kinda hoping it would play the sorted sample at the end.)
icambron 1 hour ago||
I actually wanted it to play them as it went, so that it would be <unsorted><sorted> each time through, with the former shrinking and the latter growing.
pdpi 1 hour ago|||
The idea is that it slices the Amen Break into however many slices you specify, and the list being sorted is the indices for those slices. At each step, it plays the slice the pivot is being compared to.

Because it only plays the samples being compared, it never plays the sorted chunks, so it's missing a "punchline" of sorts.

hyperhello 2 hours ago|||
You're right. It doesn't play the sorted parts, which is strange. I expected to have a series of random-then-controlled slices with the random part getting shorter and the controlled part getting longer, but it really is just a shortening loop of random beats.
butlike 1 hour ago||
Would have been cool if it played the sorted ones at the end as a final run through victory lap
dylan604 2 hours ago|||
Did you play it to the end? It's absolutely sorting from smallest to largest. Unless you have a confused understanding of a bubble sort, it's doing a bubble sort
hnlmorg 2 hours ago|||
Not the OP but I stopped listening pretty quickly because I was confused about how it was sorted.

It wasn’t until I read your comment that I realised the sorting happened while you were listening rather than before hand.

ricardobeat 1 hour ago||
Same! thanks for saving the experience for me :)
lxgr 1 hour ago|||
So it's sorting from earliest to latest, really?
dylan604 1 hour ago||
The value that is being sorted isn't obvious to me. It's obvious that it is sorting it. I'm guessing maybe some dB level of each of the hits/notes. If that was the case, I'd expect the initial unsorted view to line up with the pattern of the waveforms which is not the case. Maybe it's just an unsorted list of values sorted in sync to the rhythm. It's weird though that the segment corresponds to a segment of the audio. I just don't see how they are linked.
scrumper 1 hour ago||
It's sorting by index of the slice. Pressing "shuffle" jumbles the slices up. So it puts the slices of the break back in the correct order. You never hear the result.

Set it to 8 slices and it becomes easy to see what it's doing: look at the waveform and the now-playing highlight jumping around.

throwuxiytayq 2 hours ago||
Give it a minute or two.
ykl 33 minutes ago||
If you aren’t familiar with the Amen Break, here’s a now classic 18 minute documentary on the Amen Break and its origins and evolution:

https://youtu.be/5SaFTm2bcac?si=J99_Sh9x3fIBCSms

robin_reala 1 hour ago||
My personal prize for the most chopped amen goes to Breakage’s Final mix of Equinox’s Acid Rain VIP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoKlz6_I4vY
jamal-kumar 1 hour ago||
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI5Qlo2Y6Jg

Nice pick! Above that same song but not compressed to hell

I like this one for amen stuff. Heavyweight Vol.4 - Untitled 7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfyHx7SCn3g

bouk 1 hour ago|||
Wow I've heard pieces of this but never the full thing, incredible
butterknife 27 minutes ago|||
Hype for Equinox in Sheffield on Sat
ChrisArchitect 44 minutes ago||
Worlds colliding here.

We're dropping amen selections now?

Some classics that sound like what the app is sortin':

Remarc - Sound Murderer (Loafin' in Brockley Mix) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SUdpCVITxc

Splash - Babylon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vghx8SEeH8

DJ Krome & Mr. Time - The License https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPa5JBg8hZI

Source Direct - Secret Liason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfEWCVoB45s

Danny Breaks - Droppin' Science Vol 1A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqZT-Jse5rQ

HelloUsername 19 minutes ago||
> We're dropping amen selections now?

Futurama theme! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz8HmN2uvuk

nvader 1 hour ago||
This deserves the top spot on the front page!

Might I ask for the implementation of other sorting algorithms here?

marssaxman 2 hours ago||
I can't help laughing. This is great.

I don't understand the comparison function, but it's really enjoyable listening to the algorithm work out its logic.

exDM69 2 hours ago||
That's a fun two minutes for any computer scientist drum and bass fan.
oybng 1 hour ago||
Automatic chopping has existed for decades, popularised here: https://web.archive.org/web/20051225061044/http://www.cus.ca... https://github.com/mdsp/Livecut See also, dblue Glitch, chrisGlitch, Renoise
bzzzt 1 hour ago|
Yes, and on many samplers too. The linked website looks like a 'lite' version of the slicer on my Elektron Octatrack ;)
empath75 1 hour ago|
Not playing it all the way through at the end is diabolical.
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