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Posted by kermatt 5 hours ago

The 49MB web page(thatshubham.com)
219 points | 133 commentspage 2
the_snooze 3 hours ago|
It's really hard to consider any kind of web dev as "engineering." Outcomes like this show that they don't have any particular care for constraints. It's throw-spaghetti-at-the-wall YOLO programming.
nayroclade 3 hours ago||
There are plenty of web devs who care about performance and engineering quality. But caring about such things when you work on something like a news site is impossible: These sites make their money through user tracking, and it's literally your job to stuff in as many 3rd-party trackers as management tells you to. Any dev who says no on the basis that it'll slow the site down will get fired as quickly as a chef who get a shift job in McDonalds and tries to argue for better cuisine.
BoneShard 3 hours ago||
it's still engineering, just for different constraints - cost & speed.
decimalenough 4 hours ago||
This is why people continue to lament Google Reader (and RSS in general): it was a way to read content on your own terms, without getting hijacked by ads.
nativeit 1 hour ago||
Got to this article/comments section via FreshRSS. Still the greatest way to consume media on the web.
bot403 4 hours ago|||
Why lament it? I've been using Inoreader for over a decade after Google Reader went away. And I gladly pay for it year after year.
Cyphase 4 hours ago|||
RSS and feed readers still exist! All hope is not lost.
decimalenough 2 hours ago||
Sure, I use Feedly myself, but RSS is increasingly marginalized. I use to follow blogs, but it's not usable for mainstream media, Reddit, HN, etc etc.
lightandlight 2 hours ago||
> Reddit, HN

Hacker News still has a feed (that's the only reason why I saw this thread). And Reddit gives you a feed for your subscribed subreddits.

fsflover 4 hours ago|||
People should stop lamenting Google Reader and start using RSS. There are numerous threads about it on HN, e.g., https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45459233
bergheim 4 hours ago||
What on earth do you have to rely on alphabet, an ad company, to read rss for? there are many other options, that are not made by an ad company.

Google Reader was never the answer. It's such a shame that people even here don't realize that relying on Google for that had interests at odds - and you weren't part of the equation at all.

Well, except for your data. You didn't give them enough data. So they shut down shop. Gmail though, ammirite? :D

Yeah I wonder why gmail was not one of the shut down products /s

drnick1 2 hours ago||
It's almost criminal that the article does not mention network-wide DNS blocklists as an obvious solution to this problem. I stop nearly 100% of ads in their tracks using the Hagezi ultimate list, and run uBlock on desktop for cosmetic filtering and YouTube.

I should really run some to tests to figure out how much lighter the load on my link is thanks to the filter.

I also manually added some additional domains (mostly fonts by Google and Adobe) to further reduce load and improve privacy.

hilbert42 2 hours ago|
"…how much lighter the load on my link is thanks to the filter."

Not done any rigorous tests but my experience has been rhat it can be lower than a tenth.

h4ch1 4 hours ago||
This rubbish also exists disproportionately for recipe pages/cooking websites as well.

You have 20 ads scattered around, an autoplaying video of some random recipe/ad, 2-3 popups to subscribe, buy some affiliated product and then the author's life story and then a story ABOUT the recipe before I am able to see the detailed recipe in the proper format.

It's second nature to open all these websites in reader mode for me atp.

jopsen 4 hours ago|
Good sites do exist. It's just that they drown.
nativeit 1 hour ago|||
I remember browsing the web in 1993-1994. It was literally a list of webpages. Yahoo was there, though, so presumably they've fallen farthest?
h4ch1 4 hours ago|||
True, these ad heavy cooking sites also dabble extensively in SEOmaxxing their way to the top.
temporallobe 2 hours ago||
Even enterprise COTS products can have some of these issues. We have an on-premise Atlassian suite, and Jira pages sometimes have upwards of 30MB total payloads for loading a simple user story page — and keep in mind there is no ad-tech or other nonsense going on here, it’s just pure page content.
lambdaone 2 hours ago||
The article says "I don't know where this fascination with getting everyone to download your app comes from."

The answer is really simple and follows on from this article; the purpose of the app is even more privacy violation and tracking.

dizzy9 3 hours ago||
I remember in 2008, when Wizards of the Coast re-launched the official Dungeons & Dragons website to coincide with the announcement of the fourth edition rules. The site was something in the region of 4 MB, plus a 20 MB embedded video file. A huge number of people were refreshing the site to see what the announcement was, and it was completely slammed. Nobody could watch the trailer until they uploaded it to YouTube later.

4 MB was an absurd size for a website in 2008. It's still an absurd size for a website.

frereubu 2 hours ago||
When working at the BBC in the late 90s, the ops team would start growling at you if a site's home page was over 70kb...
zahlman 4 hours ago||
This site more or less practices what it preaches. `newsbanner.webp` is 87.1KB (downloaded and saved; the Network tab in Firefox may report a few times that and I don't know why); the total image size is less than a meg and then there's just 65.6KB of HTML and 15.5 of CSS.

And it works without JavaScript... but there does appear to be some tracking stuff. A deferred call out to Cloudflare, a hit counter I think? and some inline stuff at the bottom that defers some local CDN thing the old-fashioned way. Noscript catches all of this and I didn't feel like allowing it in order to weigh it.

mvrckhckr 4 hours ago|
Only major media can get away with this kind of bloat. For the normal website, Google would never include you in the SERPs even if your page is a fraction of that size.
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