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Posted by PaulHoule 8 hours ago

Death to Scroll Fade(dbushell.com)
317 points | 171 commentspage 3
burningChrome 6 hours ago|
I've always been under the impression it was lazy loading the page to increase page loading times for content above the fold? At least this was why I started using it about 8 years ago.

Its like anything though. I think people just thought it was a cool effect and so it wasn't about page speed any more, it was just about something people used to add some panache to their sites.

Kind of like people who've been abusing modals for the last decade or so. lol

MichaelDickens 6 hours ago|
I'm not a web dev but if the goal is to improve load times, I'd think it would make more sense to load the full article text up front, and lazy load heavier data like images and video? I've seen a lot of websites that do it that way.
cwillu 5 hours ago||
But then a fast reader might be able to read faster than the ads could load!
hyperhello 7 hours ago||
It’s kind of like when someone wants you to read something, so they hold the thing to read for you and read it out loud, while moving their finger at the words they’re currently reading. I know how to read!!!
sodapopcan 6 hours ago||
I'm someone who loves over-the-top, creative-for-the-sake-of-creative web design, even for something primarily text-based like a blog post, I 100% sympathize with and want to accommodate those who don't.

I think `prefers-tacky` is a brilliant idea! It means excess decorative images could avoid even being downloaded if the user so chooses.

realaliarain74 1 hour ago||
counterpoint: this assumes everyone has the same constraints. not always true
levmiseri 7 hours ago||
I'm guilty of this as well. https://kraa.io/about has some fade-in animation for the intro text – driven by wanting the initial impression to be focused/minimal and 'unravel' as you go. I take it that most HN folks would vastly prefer to NOT have this?
wincy 6 hours ago||
I’ll say as someone who suffers from severe motion sickness and the OP site makes me feel deeply uncomfortable, that your site does the fade in fast enough that it doesn’t give me any discomfort. Seems fine to me. Maybe I should consider being a consultant for vestibular motion sickness accessibility, haha. I’d get paid to answer “on a scale of 1-10, how pukey does this app make you feel?”
sublinear 6 hours ago||
I think it looks fine except it's missing a more obvious hint that there's more to see when I scroll. The one that's there is just textual and very delayed.
medbar 6 hours ago||
Not sure if I second this or not. I did want to scroll, but I don't know how much of that was influenced from the context or the extreme minimalism making me want to look for more - I'm interested in how I would have reacted to the site not knowing it had scroll fade. I could see an argument with the "Don't Make Me Think" principle.
rc_mob 6 hours ago||
I wish this blog stopped the scroll fading after it made ita point. would have really hammered it home.
confounder 6 hours ago||
Amen. So cathartic to see someone publish the post I've been wanting to write for a while, and with a much better title.

Also: I've noticed a new abuse recently of sites implementing scroll momentum on desktop — has anyone else seen this? I couldn't believe it, but there it was.

wtallis 3 hours ago|
Sites overriding scroll behavior to implement their own smooth scroll behavior with the wrong speed has been a thing for many years. It's a bit harder to notice if you're using a traditional mouse wheel, but is really easy to notice on a decent laptop touchpad.

It's a inexcusable usability disaster.

darkteflon 3 hours ago||
Oh yeah. Fucking hate this. Apple does it with their product pages. You have to swipe like crazy and it’s impossible to move past their pictures / animations to get to the next text block until they’ve decided that you’ve seen enough. Another one of those “this can’t have actually been used by anyone at Apple” things they seem to do so well recently.
rgbjoy 5 hours ago||
This is why I chose a fade-in reveal https://www.rgbjoy.com/
hirako2000 5 hours ago|
What sucks with scroll fade is when it fades slower than one can read or scroll.

Fading the entire content very fast, so fast that it's barely perceptible is actually better on the eyes.

Blinking hurts. Fast changing contrast hurts. The fade is a natural effect I use everywhere almost. My eyes never complained, rather are grateful for the small effort it takes to get right

wtallis 2 hours ago|
The motion of the scrolling already ensures that the new content is revealed gradually. There's no need for a fade-in animation on top of that. It's just punishing the user for scrolling too fast.
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