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Posted by ibraheemdev 1 day ago

Astral to Join OpenAI(astral.sh)
https://openai.com/index/openai-to-acquire-astral/
1393 points | 851 commentspage 13
colesantiago 1 day ago|
If you don't pay for your tools and support OSS financially, this is what happens.

Although Astral being VC funded was already headed this way anyway.

Deno, Pydantic (Both Sequoia) will go the same way as with many other VC backed "open source" dev tools.

It will go towards AI companies buying up the very same tools, putting it in their next model update and used against you.

Rented back to you for $20/mo.

smahs 1 day ago|
There is nothing wrong with big money backing, often is necessary for long term bets, but rug pulling is a serious threat. VC funded open source has become a pattern/playbook.
colesantiago 1 day ago||
It would have been fine if the Astral team was acqui-hired and uv, ruff, etc were donated to the PSF or Linux Foundation for further sponsorship and support.

But the pressure because they raised VC funding, I would imagine Astral needed an actual exit and OpenAI saw Astral's tools as an asset.

joshuawright11 19 hours ago||
Wow - this is potentially the most cynical hacker news thread I've ever read. When did this place trade it's curiosity and excitement about technology for constant doomerism?

Congrats Astral and co!

jdgoesmarching 19 hours ago||
Open source tools are being snapped up by a company famous for reneging on its non-profit mission as soon as they sniffed some profit. Wow gee, imagine the cynicism.
dgb23 19 hours ago|||
I think it was always that way. When an org gets big and its leaders become powerful, then there's always a good portion of snark and mistrust from this community.
UqWBcuFx6NV4r 15 hours ago|||
Blindly celebrating all accusations is not “curiosity and excitement about technology”. Disappointing that you can’t tell the difference between tech and the SV startup scene. They are different things.
barnabee 19 hours ago||
Sorry, but I don't think cheering on OpenAI represents curiosity and excitement about technology.

I'm happy for the Astral team but in my opinion, big tech especially is incompatible with curiosity and hacker ethos.

godblessamerica 23 hours ago||
How are they acquiring it without "open" in their name?
wrqvrwvq 23 hours ago||
So instead of finally building an enterprise-grade package manager where you could pay for validated, verified and secure packages, we're going to vibe project management and let a slop-spiggot fill the trough. Brilliant. Incredibly pleased that the last sane tools in the entire python ecosystem are getting gutted to discourage the last few non-braindead devs from bothering.
wrqvrwvq 22 hours ago|
Don't get me wrong I love getting 300 dependabot updates per day. It's a huge productivity booster and even if you devote 1/2 your dev team to keeping this shit up to date, you'd still be vulnerable to repo-jacking, because the entire pkg ecosystem is broken. The other thing i love about npm and pypi is the way a single small team will re-download in ci (regardless of caching) a TiB of packages all day long for no reason. Love waiting for gh actions to re-import infinite packages for the nth time before it times out and you restart it manually. makes so much sense. Great work all. glad openai is putting the nails in this retard coffin.
tgtweak 23 hours ago||
Amusing that the best python tools are written entirely in rust.
wiseowise 21 hours ago||
…amusing how? CPython is written in C, JVM is written in mix of cpp and Java, Rust was written using OCaml initially. Don’t know why you’re snickering. Do you also find it amusing that by the time cpp/rust team scaffolds and compiles initial boilerplate, python team is already making money?
Kwpolska 22 hours ago||
That's what you get with toy languages.
nusl 1 day ago||
I am actually quite saddened by this. It's very unlikely that' I'll keep using uv, now. I don't trust this kind of shit.
waba99 20 hours ago||
I wonder who's going to pick up VoidZero
wiseowise 18 hours ago||
So many negative comments but not a single:

- I'm willing to pay for Astral ecosystem so it stays independent/open source

- I'm willing to fork the project

UqWBcuFx6NV4r 16 hours ago|
Here you go: I am willing to pay for Astral ecosystem so it stays independent / open-source.

Nobody gave me that opportunity.

Not everybody puts every thought they have into a HN comment. Saying “ I am willing to pay for Astral ecosystem so it stays independent / open-source” just isn’t a very useful thing to say at the moment.

Get off your high-horse.

wiseowise 6 hours ago||
What high-horse? The point is community is all talk, but no walk.
klysm 20 hours ago||
Damnit I was really rooting for uv :(
sakesun 1 day ago|
Pyright and ty are under the same roof now.
codethief 22 hours ago|
How so? Pyright is being developed by Microsoft.
sakesun 13 hours ago||
The pioneer is now at Codex team.
codethief 9 hours ago||
Eric Traut is at OpenAI now?
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