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Posted by ibraheemdev 13 hours ago

Astral to Join OpenAI(astral.sh)
https://openai.com/index/openai-to-acquire-astral/
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kseniamorph 12 hours ago|
i feel like moves like this make it even harder for new open-source tools to break through. there's already evidence that LLMs are biased toward established tools in their training data (you can check it here https://amplifying.ai/research/claude-code-picks). when a dominant player acquires the most popular toolchain in an ecosystem, that bias only deepens. not because of any skewing, but because the acquired tools get more usage, more documentation, more community content. getting a new project into model weights at meaningful scale is already really hard. acquisitions like this make it even harder.
fortuitous-frog 11 hours ago|
I'm also concerned about this, but I feel as though uv and ruff's explosive growth happening alongside and despite that of LLMs demonstrates that it's not a show-stopper. I vividly recall LLM coding agents defaulting to pip/poetry and black/flake8, etc. for new projects. It still does that to some extent, but I see them using uv and ruff by default -- without any steering from me -- with far greater frequency.

Perhaps it's naive optimism, but I generally have hope that new and improved tools will continue to gain adoption and shine through in the training data, especially as post-training and continual learning improve.

__mharrison__ 11 hours ago||
Interesting acquihire. I would have assumed MS would have snagged them (until their __layoffs__ last year). My gut is that this is more for Python expertise, and ruff/ty knowledge of linting code than uv...

I'm a heavy user and instructor of uv. I'm teaching a course next week that features uv and rough (as does my recent Effective Testing book).

Interesting to read the comments about looking for a change. Honestly, uv is so much better than anything else in the Python community right now. We've used projects sponsored by Meta (and other questionable companies) in the past. I'm going to continue enjoying uv while I can.

phlakaton 12 hours ago||
I hope OpenAI realizes they cannot buy developer goodwill.
this_user 12 hours ago|
They are not trying to buy developer goodwill, they are trying to catch up with Antrophic in terms of getting those B2B contracts, which is currently the most realistic path towards not running out of money.
phlakaton 12 hours ago||
1. The Register reports OpenAI is well ahead of Anthropic in B2B contracts. It's Anthropic playing catch-up, not OpenAI.

2. In any case, the announcement strongly suggests that customer acquisition had little to do with this. The stated purpose of the acquisition, as I read it, is an acquisition (plus acquihire?) to bolster their Codex product.

3. But if they were hoping for some developer goodwill as a secondary effect... well, see my note above.

geophph 12 hours ago||
Welp. Guess we just wait for the next package management tool to come around. Really thought uv was gonna be the one.

Good for Astral though I guess, they do great work. Just not optimistic this is gonna be good for python devs long term.

dinosor 12 hours ago||
I'm confused as to what will happen to their platform product which was in closed beta - pyx. Since they no longer need to worry about money (I assume) they no longer need to chase after enterprise customers?
T-A 11 hours ago|
"OpenAI is focusing employee and investor attention on its enterprise business as the artificial intelligence startup gears up to go public, potentially by the end of the year, CNBC has learned."

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/17/openai-preps-for-ipo-in-2026...

the__alchemist 11 hours ago||
Would there be any interest in me fixing the bugs in Pyflow and getting it updated to install newer python versions? It's almost identical to uv in concept, but I haven't touched it in 6 years.

Astral has demonstrated that there is desire for this sort of "just works" thing, which I struggled with, and led me to abandoning it. (I.e.: "pip/venv/conda are fine, why do I want this?", despite my personal experience with those as high-friction)

skeledrew 11 hours ago||
After investing a bunch in converting my projects to, and evangelizing uv, I feel betrayed. I smell stability troubles ahead. Should've stuck to Conda.
JoshPurtell 10 hours ago|
You most certainly should not have stuck with Conda
bobajeff 12 hours ago||
This might not be bad as long as Astral is allowed to continue to work on improving ty, uv and ruff. I do worry about they'll get distracted by their Codex job duties though.
sublime_happen 12 hours ago||
these (uv and bun) are not acquihires, they're acqui-rootaccess
edelbitter 9 hours ago||
Have you looked at the .github/ folder of any actively developed python packages lately? It has become difficult to find one where there isn't a few interesting people with code-execution-capable push/publish/cache-write access somewhere along the blown up transitive dependency/include chains.
OutOfHere 10 hours ago||
We need to explore this angle. With OpenAI already strongly being intelligence gathering apparatus for the US, now with this acquisition, it will potentially have access to the code and environment variables of a good chunk of private projects even when Codex doesn't.
UqWBcuFx6NV4r 4 hours ago||
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bilalel 6 hours ago|
That's unfortunate for the python community. I can understand the move by Astral team, but it's still difficult to accept it.
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