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Posted by jandeboevrie 3 hours ago

An update on Steam / GOG changes for OpenTTD(www.openttd.org)
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CivBase 2 hours ago|
> we have not been “pressured” by Atari to make these changes.

> Atari approached us to explain their plans for the Transport Tycoon Deluxe re-release, and what it might mean for OpenTTD.

> we understood that a compromise would be needed to balance Atari’s commercial interests […] against the availability of a free, well-developed evolution of the game.

Sounds to me like you were pressured by Atari to make these changes.

calibas 1 hour ago||
Everyone's being diplomatic, including most of the HN comments.

This seems to be the simplest compromise, and allows OpenTTD to continue existing without too many problems from Atari, so people don't want to make waves.

NietTim 55 minutes ago|||
There is no way not to, OpenTTD has 0 cards to play since everything is explicitly build on IP that is not theirs, and they know it. They were "not pressured" because Atari didn't utter threats to them, it didn't need to come to that because the OpenTTD people were reasonable, and so was Atari.

Not sure why so many commenters are failing to grasp this.

speefers 2 hours ago||
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junaru 2 hours ago||
Atari is releasing an inferior product and needs the superior community one delisted. The remaster cannot compete, simple as.
ethanrutherford 2 hours ago|
it is neither being delisted, nor was it requested to be. As far as rights holders exercising their rights, this is about the most collaborative way it could have gone. Not every rights holder is a John Carmack.
WarcrimeActual 1 hour ago||
This guy ended his thought with "simple as". He's not a smart man.
Lammy 3 hours ago||
> a compromise would be needed to balance Atari’s commercial interests (which of course they are entitled to pursue as the rights holder)

No, fuck 'em. They had nothing to do with developing the game, and in a sane copyright structure a thirty-year-old work would be public domain by now.

blizdiddy 2 hours ago||
Agreed. Publishers need to be knocked off this absurd moral high ground. If merely being rich is enough for me to profit off of Miles Davis songs for decades after his death, copyright is just another wealth redistribution to the rich. Steal all the games and music, and any ghoul that claims I’m stifling creativity can compare their compositions to mine.
Aurornis 1 hour ago|||
> They had nothing to do with developing the game

OpenTTD started as an effort to translate the original game’s assembly into higher level code.

It was not a clean room implementation. The original code was used as a base.

Lammy 47 minutes ago||
Who gives a shit? It's from 1995 and nu-Atari had nothing to do with it.
AndrewDucker 32 minutes ago||
Copyright from 1995 has not expired.
maybewhenthesun 2 hours ago|||
> in a sane copyright structure

You are not wrong. But alas we don't have that. ANd in the reality we live in this collaboration is way better than the alternative.

blizdiddy 1 hour ago||
We know what the law is… the law is bullshit.

Is it easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism?

AndrewDucker 30 minutes ago|||
What you can imagine has very little to bear on what they can get away with without being legally shut down.
passivegains 24 minutes ago|||
I mean, yeah. There's enough nukes locked and loaded around the globe to end human civilization as we know it in minutes. Nobody's made a bomb that can fix socioeconomics.
Dylan16807 3 hours ago|||
Well, they shouldn't be entitled but they are entitled.
WarcrimeActual 1 hour ago||
But it's not and we don't live in fantasy land. Your approach would have it shut down tomorrow.
maCDzP 2 hours ago|
Now with AI I wonder if it’s possible to just let agents build a perfect emulation of the game. It reminds me of fuzzers. You let the agent go loose on the game and it brute forces every possible state. Then recreates the code. It’s very inefficient- but it probably works.
einr 18 minutes ago||
You’re going to brute force every possible state of a sandbox building game. See you on the other side of the heat death of the universe; hope you stocked up on Claude Code credits.
nemomarx 2 hours ago|||
Why would you when an open source version already exists?
bigfishrunning 2 hours ago||
So https://malus.sh/

Good luck with all that