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Posted by freddykruger 1 day ago

Delve – Fake Compliance as a Service(deepdelver.substack.com)
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ryguz 4 hours ago|
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jefftrebben 4 hours ago||
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aperture_hq 6 hours ago||
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advokatbard14 1 day ago||
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ManuelSuarez 1 day ago||
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biggletiddies 8 hours ago||
Cluely and HockeyStack are scam companies too.

Cluely did the ChatGPT wrapper to cheat on interviews then sold the customer data to recruiters. The whole company promise is a scam, and useless since we have LLMs.

HockeyStack held contests for people to win cars etc and never delivered. They also lied about having revenues and a product when they had nothing built. Along with Greptile they were doing 7day weeks of unpaid labor from “trial periods”.

Scams all around.

calderwoodra 7 hours ago||
Greptile is an awesome product, not sure where the scam is there
taintlord 4 hours ago||
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porridgeraisin 8 hours ago||
Wait what's the greptile story?
buttsack 7 hours ago||
It says right there, 7-day work weeks (no days off).

Also they were part of the cohort forcing workers to stay minimum until 9PM.

Like every AI company, their "product" is a Next.js website, OPENAI_API_KEY, and a Stripe checkout page.

porridgeraisin 7 hours ago||
Ah ok. What's with the "unpaid labour" part?
buttsack 4 hours ago||
It's also in the original post. Greptile, HockeyStack, and others from that cohort of 20-year old founders out of YC were having software engineer candidates come in day-in and day-out, staying until 9PM under the threat of being rejected if they left earlier.

They were not paid at all, they were working long-term on a "trial period". And yes it's very illegal. I was there and saw it first-hand.

The guys they had on trial periods - though I'm sure they were very intelligent - were not really firing on all cylinders if you know what I mean.

gsibble 15 hours ago||
How does this not reach the front page?
dang 8 hours ago||
We just found out about this story and the submissions of it. It looks like it didn't make the front page because it set off HN's voting ring detector.

Mods didn't touch either thread except (1) we merged the duplicate discussions and (2) we rolled back the voting ring penalty so that the story would be on the frontpage.

This is in keeping with the principle that we moderate stories less, not more, when YC or a YC startup is part of the story. That's been the case since the beginning, and I've posted about it dozens of times: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....

sebmellen 8 hours ago|||
Respectfully, I think there may be an issue with your voting ring detection, which is that if multiple people try to submit the same article and are redirected to an existing post and they upvote it, that might be setting off the voting ring alert. Can you check that?

I would imagine that's what happened here.

dang 8 hours ago||
That's definitely not what happened here. The data would be quite different in that case.

Edit: 10% of the votes came from resubmissions of the URL. The other 90% came from other sources.

sebmellen 8 hours ago||
Curious to know! I submitted the duplicate article and most definitely did not work with any voting ring.
bigballsack 8 hours ago|||
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dang 8 hours ago||
Having been at this for 12 years I am pretty sure that the bulk of the community does in fact believe us when we say that, and even when we say other things as well.

There are a number of reasons why this is the case. One is that it is true. Another is that we've always treated the good will of the community as by far the biggest asset—in fact, the only asset—that HN has.

nedwin 9 hours ago|||
It's on the front page for me?
slackfan 9 hours ago||
It does, but it's also a takedown of a YC-backed company.

Really great vetting there, guys.

stuckkeys 9 hours ago||
LOL -For a good minute the comments were not visible. Someone is playing RR.
dang 8 hours ago||
We were in the process of merging the threads. Actually tomhow had correctly merged them, but I misinterpreted which submission had been first and undid that. Then corrected my mistake.

Had you checked the other thread during that "good minute", you'd have seen that all the comments were intact.

slackfan 7 hours ago||
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clitheads 8 hours ago||
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LambdaComplex 9 hours ago|
> No custom tailoring, no AI guidance, no real automation. Just pre-populated forms that required you to click “save”.

I hate that I've become this cynical, but it's gotten to the point where reading the "no x, no y, just z" construct makes me assume that writing is AI generated (and then I immediately stop caring about reading it)