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Posted by haritha-j 11 hours ago

The Soul of a Pedicab Driver(www.sheldonbrown.com)
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fdghrtbrt 10 hours ago|
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ndsipa_pomu 9 hours ago||
Haven't visited Oslo, but I thought Norway was largely a white-skinned population. Why would it be jarring to see a white person doing any kind of job, or are you referring to some kind of job division racism?
micromacrofoot 8 hours ago||
It's the classic racism/classism combo... a lot of taxi drivers are foreigners for example because it can be a stressful and low-paying job at the end of the day.
selimthegrim 8 hours ago||
In a lot of US tourist cities, I would say that’s who is predominantly doing it
micromacrofoot 8 hours ago||
Yes, oddly compared to taxis my experience in the US with pedicabs is that they're almost all white men driving. More of a freewheeling low responsibility type of job rather than providing for a family type situation. I wonder what sort of social shift resulted in this?
stevenwoo 8 hours ago||
If it's anything like the sport of bicycling in the USA, for a long time it's been a sport of caucasians, this is changing a bit but it trickles all the way up just from a sampling of who represents the USA at the Olympics and World Championships. Possibly a combination of the high cost of entry with the clique-ishness and the sport requiring quite a bit of free time and the support or money to have that much free time. Not talking about kids riding around the neighborhood but people who continue or start riding as adults, so not a social shift at all but existing demographics.
xnx 9 hours ago|
Quite different than the scam pedicabs that operate in US cities now.
ndsipa_pomu 9 hours ago||
They're popular in London too. The scam seems to be that if tourists don't arrange the price beforehand, it'll be arbitrarily inflated - they don't run a meter like a licensed taxi.
smelendez 1 hour ago||
Always ask for a quote. That means every ride, not every visit to that city. And confirm what methods of payment they can take before you get in. If they're evasive or you get a bad vibe, don't get in.

If you decide to change your destination, make sure you get an updated quote first, for your sake and the driver's.

raddan 9 hours ago||
What’s the scam?
Waterluvian 9 hours ago||
They’ll end up charging you like $120 for a 10 min trip by just being deceptive and evasive about the fee structure.
Sholmesy 7 hours ago|||
(London perspective), I've intervened from tourists getting scammed before from these guys, and they get violent very quickly. Especially fun because they have their gang all around.

Unlicensed, unmaintained, motorized vehicles on pedestrian paths, a miracle no one has been killed yet.

It's kind of insane, and is a microcosm of the UK's inability to do anything.

- Everyone hates them, from residents, to businesses, to the tourists that get harassed by them.

- There are multiple laws, that if the police wanted to, they could enforce at any time.

- Nothing gets done.

It is an impressive level of apathy from an already toothless government.

JohnnyLondon 5 hours ago||
They have finally after many years put some legislation in to allow TfL to regulate them. It comes into force this October.

https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2026/februa...

Sholmesy 3 hours ago|||
Yes, much like how they've regulated delivery drivers. The person listed on the app is definitely the one that delivers, very effective.

I detest the concept that we need yet another "law" before we can actual enforce anything. There are plenty of laws being broken already, we should go and prosecute them before we start making up new ones to ignore.

jacquesm 9 hours ago|||
Then you give them the finger and walk away.
Waterluvian 8 hours ago|||
It's not that easy. He had those little chains strung across the side exits and wouldn't remove them until I paid. I told him they don't let you out of Canada with that kind of cash but he didn't believe me and laid siege to my day while eating a slice of pizza like a taco. The worst thing was that this was my second mishap with non-combustion locomotion that day. ...I still swear that was not the real Secretariat and that Central Park isn't in New Jersey.
jacquesm 8 hours ago|||
Hm. Ok, well, I guess we would have handled that differently.

I had something similar happen in Germany, on the way from the (international) airport to a hotel the driver started some kind of spiel that suddenly his banking machine had broken and he couldn't take card payments. My friend/colleague Jaap who was with me said we'd pay cash and I said no way, and after fiddling for a bit with his phone (mine wasn't a smartphone) gave the driver a different address. When we ended up in front of the police station the driver became a lot more friendly, drove us to the hotel instead and suddenly found that his banking machine had miraculously started working again...

I find that by giving in to such fraud I'm helping to perpetrate it so I've vowed not to let it happen, at the same time there is always a chance that such an interaction would turn violent. After all, they've already decided they want to steal from you. My weighing of this is that they have more to lose than me because I'm a transient and they are not.

Cthulhu_ 8 hours ago||||
If they don't let you out of a vehicle, that's kidnapping and / or extortion and a call to the police should resolve it quickly. In a functioning society, anyway.
mmooss 7 hours ago|||
Easy to say from the comfort of my terminal, but some urban advice:

Remove the chains and get out; most important is your freedom and safety. They aren't going to risk prison for assault and battery. If they give you trouble, call the police immediately. Take a photo of them and text it to a friend. Don't act intimidated no matter what; it just makes them think they are getting somewhere with you.

Then offer a reasonable fare. If they don't accept, offer to call the police and let law enforcement sort it out. They'll take the fare.

gambiting 48 minutes ago|||
The problem with these is that they are often ran by actual gangs - if you try that, you will find yourself very quickly surrounded by multiple angry looking men who will not let you leave unless you pay.