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Posted by PythonicNinja 8 hours ago

Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?(hormuz.pythonic.ninja)
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LePetitPrince 5 hours ago||
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whatsupdog 5 hours ago||
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CoastalCoder 5 hours ago||
Once you have enough karma you can flag stories.
mothballed 4 hours ago||
You can be shadow banned from flagging and vouching at which point you can still click it but nothing will happen. Not sure if it counts for stories.
drstewart 5 hours ago|||
It's slowly turning into a reddit like echo chamber
hakrgrl 5 hours ago||
This was my first thought too."Trump bad" is fine on HN. I've seen it multiple times. The zig guy wrote anti ICE propaganda in the zig docs and everyone here lapped it up and upvoted it. Any pro ICE discussion on HN was literally flagged and removed.
nutjob2 5 hours ago||
Sounds perfectly fine to me. Pro ICE is equated with supporting arbitrary execution of innocent people, who would support that in good conscience?
hakrgrl 5 hours ago||
> Sounds perfectly fine to me. Pro ICE is equated with supporting arbitrary execution of innocent people

That is a false equivalence, ignoring the countless criminals that have been removed from our neighborhoods.

One of THOUSANDS of examples below. You want this guy as your neighbor, really?

Kindness to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.

"Eduardo Temoxtle-Calihua, a criminal illegal alien from Mexico, convicted for cruelty toward a child and DUI in Lincoln County, Idaho."

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/03/16/ice-continued-arrest-mur...

whatsupdog 4 hours ago||
The downvotes prove that the hacker news hive mind doesn't care about facts.
Waterluvian 5 hours ago||
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hakrgrl 4 hours ago|
Or machine gun defence when you're protecting tens of thousands of Iranians from the Islamist regime.

The difference is the US had bad intelligence and acknowledges it's a tragedy. The regime intentionally murders by the thousands and would murder more if it wasn't thwarted by the US and Israel. And somehow you're more upset about the former not the latter.

> Since the beginning of the 2025–2026 Iranian protests, the government of Iran has perpetrated widespread massacres of civilians, deploying both its own security forces and also imported foreign militias to suppress widespread public dissent across the country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran_massacres

ib33 4 hours ago|||
Why not remove sanctions so the civilians have less conflict with the regime? The protest and every death can also be blamed on those who cancelled the deal.
hakrgrl 4 hours ago||
Ask your favorite LLM
TacticalCoder 1 hour ago||||
> Or machine gun defence when you're protecting tens of thousands of Iranians from the Islamist regime.

I agree with you. Also one where you try to prevent olympic athletes from being publicly hanged by islamists.

Or when you try to detect lies from the islamist republic of Iran: for example when they said they didn't have long range missiles and they now just tried to attack targets 2000 km away. The intel was right after all.

But there's an issue in the west: some people hate free people and their own west so much that they prefer to side with islamists, with Hamas, with people chanting "from the river to the sea", that they'll only half-condemn Oct 7th saying it's "resistance", that they'll refuse to see when groups of people refuse to integrate into the US, that they'll never condemn a mayor of major US city saying "it's now time for US citizens to follow the teachings of prophet muhammad", etc.

And don't get me started on those saying the islamist veil is "empowering" for women and a sign of "tolerance". Moreover it's coming from those who happen to on the same side that constantly criticizes "toxic masculinity". But criticizing the most patriarchal culture and religion of them all? "Won't hear / Won't see / Won't talk".

It's never-ending. Their hatred for half of the people in their own country make them side and root for absolute evil.

To me there's a word for such people: they're traitors. Plain and simple. And they're definitely my ennemies.

I cannot be friend with someone condemning a US missile landing on a school but not condemning islamists killing 30 000+ of their own people and publicly hanging olympic athletes.

Plain and simple. And they're the ones who should look deep down in their soul to see how dark it is, not me.

ykonstant 4 hours ago|||
whatabout iran
hakrgrl 4 hours ago||
The implication being what? "What about Iran" as if I don't think killing schoolchildren is terrible and shouldn't happen?

You missed the entire point of my comment: to us it's a tragedy. To them it's a strategy. That's why we're bombing them in the first place. They are commiting genocide.

Waterluvian 3 hours ago||
I think true competence of this subject matter is having the ability to comprehend that "it was an accident" or "they started it" score zero points. Simple minds wail for simple framings of deeply complicated situations, and Americans chose to elect simple minds. I think the U.S. has grappled for a long time with the growing chorus of simple mindedness, volunteering itself for wars that ultimately serve no outcome other than further destabilization. The tragedy of simple minds is their being unable to learn from these mistakes, let alone identify them as mistakes.

To put more simply: it doesn't matter what logic or reasoning there is. There are real, tangible consequences to killing 150 children with a cruise missile. The tragedy will be when simple minds understand those consequences as little more than, "it's because they're subhuman terrorists who hate America."

sbussard 3 hours ago||
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frenchtoast8 2 hours ago|
You have commented more than a dozen times on this post. I think you are more than happy to contribute to this “cesspool”
sbussard 2 hours ago||
Excellent. Finally some diversity of thought. Going to regret this in the morning.
sbussard 3 hours ago||
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ilovecake1984 3 hours ago||
They are both very bad guys.
sbussard 2 hours ago|||
put them both on a scale and one is 30000 lives heavier
ilovecake1984 1 hour ago|||
Irrelevant. Both are rogue states.

It’s like saying who is worse.. Iran or North Korea??

Like what’s the point.

kennywinker 2 hours ago|||
+1500. So one is 28,500 heavier. So far.
sbussard 3 hours ago|||
"good people on both sides"
kennywinker 2 hours ago||
The problem with saying “good people on both sides” is that one side is literal nazis - the origianl quote is referencing a white supremist march in Charlottesville where marchers chanted “jews will not replace us”.

So what exactly is the problem with saying both bombing school children and machine gunning protestors is bad? Be specific.

throwawaypath 2 hours ago||
>The problem with saying “good people on both sides” is that one side is literal nazis - the origianl quote is referencing a white supremist march in Charlottesville where marchers chanted “jews will not replace us”.

That was fake news, never happened. You've been duped by Russian and Iranian propaganda: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/

kennywinker 2 hours ago||
Your link that supposedly says it never happened seems to say that it happened pretty much exactly as i described.

> Trump did say there were "very fine people on both sides," referring to the protesters and the counterprotesters.

> He said in the same statement he wasn't talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who he said should be "condemned totally."

If you are marching alongside nazis, at a march organized by neo-nazis, you’re a nazi. There are by definition no good people who march alongside nazis, so his (and your) attempt to differentiate falls flat.

UncleMeat 2 hours ago||
Okay. We can consider this war to be about regime change and human flourishing for the Iranian people when Israel and the US give up strategic planning to revolutionaries in Iran
secondary_op 5 hours ago|
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