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Posted by tosh 12 hours ago

POSSE – Publish on your Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere(indieweb.org)
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merelysounds 10 hours ago|
I do this, my site is in my profile description.

However, I skip permashortlinks - I try to keep my regular links relevant and short. Also, I like seeing full links, they can often indicate what content awaits there - vs short links, which are more opaque.

That's one more benefit of this workflow: it can be adjusted to fit one's personal preferences. I suppose others might prefer short links or maybe at some point I'll change my mind; with POSSE making these kind of changes is easy.

chrismorgan 9 hours ago|
Yeah, I’m happy to just call permashortlinks a bad idea, seldom warranted historically and roughly never now. The article offers no explanation about why to use permashortlinks—what looks to be “a few reasons why” is actually a few reasons why to link to the original (rather than copying and pasting the contents), nothing to do with the permashortlink practice.

https://indieweb.org/permashortlink does give a few reasons, but they’re bunk. “More reliable in email”? Not meaningfully so. “Quicker to recall / copy due to size”? Not typically a concern. Maybe a nice-to-have, but you can consider adjusting your URL style, then it can be even better. “Less effort to manually enter”? Repeat of the previous point.

And it doesn’t address the problems of the permashortlink. Cost. Diluting across different domains. Having something different to maintain and remember.

Don’t do separate permashortlinks. Just fix your regular links to not be bad.

OuterVale 11 hours ago||
I follow the opposite with PESOS: Publish Elsewhere, Syndicate (to your) Own Site. Work really nicely as I've got some automation and systems in place that allow me to maintain a full firehose of all my posts and notable actions across the web on my own site. Then I can sort through them and reference them (which I do frequently) with ease. I do recommend.
chrisweekly 6 hours ago|
Thanks for posting, Declan! I just checked out your site (https://vale.rocks) and it's inspiring. Have an awesome day!
tomaytotomato 12 hours ago||
I've always liked this idea.

However I am not sure about "perma-shortlinks", for discovery on other sites as the means of networking and discovering content. It seems clunky to maintain as it requires a human or some automation to curate/maintain the links. If a blog removes a link to another blog, then that pathway is closed.

It would be cool if we could solve that with a "DNS for tags/topics" a - Domain Content Server (DCS) e.g.

1. tomaytotomato.com ==> publishes to the DCS of topics (tech, java, travel)

2. DCS adds domain to those topics

3. Rating or evaluating of the content on website based on those tags (not sure the mechanics here, but it could be exploited or gamed)

You could have several DCS for topics servers run by organisations or individuals.

e.g. the Lobsters DNS for topics server would be really fussy about #tech or #computerscience blog posts, and would self select for more high brow stuff

Meanwhile a more casual tech group would score content higher for Youtube content or Toms Hardware articles.

This is just spit balling.

Pooge 11 hours ago|
Didn't you just describe a social media feed?

The whole point of syndication is that it's curated by humans (you, if it's your own feed).

tomaytotomato 10 hours ago||
Yes and no

A social media feed implies 1(n) curated by 1 algorithm hosted on Facebook/Twitter/Instagram

What I was thinking is:

- foo.social

- bar.social (tech curations)

- java.bar.social (sub curated Java list)

All these DCS (domain content servers) would be polled by your own local client

Your client can then aggregate or organise how it shows this feed

e.g. I could have a trending aggregator for situations where a blog post is shown on multiple domains (sort of shows virality)

CrociDB 10 hours ago||
I think it's funny that "POSSE" in Portuguese means "ownership". :)
kelvinjps10 7 hours ago||
for platforms that don't let you post links directly, like Reddit, where links are disabled in most subreddits unless they're major sites. What I do is post the full content of my article, and put something like if you want to read it, on my website, here is the link, or subscribe to get new posts and receive my newsletter. Most people won't visit the site or subscribe, but the people who really like it will do it.
dewey 6 hours ago||
I try to do that all the time, I've build a plugin for my blog framework (Kirby: https://plugins.getkirby.com/dewey/kirby-posse) that does that and cross posts it to Bluesky and Mastodon automatically.
cdrnsf 8 hours ago||
I built a syndication service for my site, though it only supports Mastodon. Each supported type has a toggle to syndicate out and, on success, a timestamp is displayed to note when it was syndicated after which the toggle is also displayed.

There's an RSS and JSON feed for each collection and a combined feed as well.

MrOrelliOReilly 10 hours ago||
I like the principle, but I also find that we software folk commonly mistake the creation of a website as the goal, rather than the production of "content" (e.g. blog posts). I spent years trying to publish a blog and continually getting derailed building the ultimate static website. Recently I switched to a Substack hosted on my own subdomain, and now I'm finally writing. At least I still own the subdomain.
matsemann 10 hours ago|
Hah, reminds of trying to make a blog as a teenager, 20+ years ago. Built my own CMS in PHP with various features. But never got further than having a few lines of text in the draft state. Most of the time was actually spent on having rounded corners (border-radius didn't exist) with some kinda of glass effect for a cool look (inspired by the then unreleased Windows Longhorn). And named my tool the generic name Publish-it, because publi-shit was funny.
maelito 11 hours ago|
Strange to not see the "atproto" term on that page.
gucci-on-fleek 11 hours ago|
Not that strange, the site is from 2016 [0], while ATproto is from 2022 [1].

[0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20160904131420/https://indieweb....

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT_Protocol

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