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Posted by mikeocool 1 day ago

Goodbye to Sora(twitter.com)
https://xcancel.com/soraofficialapp/status/20365327959847158...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/openai-sh..., https://archive.ph/ABkeI

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Yash16 17 hours ago|
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olalonde 21 hours ago||
"Therefore, if a value-aligned, safety-conscious project comes close to building AGI before we do, we commit to stop competing with and start assisting this project. "

Is it happening? :) /s

linncharm 15 hours ago||
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aiwokz 23 hours ago||
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twoodfin 23 hours ago||
If I were to get conspiracy-minded:

Sora had to be shut down because it was the clearest, most consequential demonstration that OpenAI’s models are running way, way ahead of their ability to align/jail them effectively.

code_biologist 23 hours ago||
The Occam's Razor position (Sora was the most expensive to operate, least monetizable model) seems like a simpler explanation. The legal costs/difficulty on top of "most expensive" are just the cherry on top.
bloppe 22 hours ago|||
What did Sora do?
yulker 23 hours ago|||
probably more cost than anything. image and video gen don't have much in common with llms
emp17344 23 hours ago||
Nope. It was just a bad product that no one wanted. It’s not a super-secret indicator that OpenAI is actually going to take over the world any day now.
twoodfin 22 hours ago||
Not “take over the world” level misalignment. I mean, “We can’t assuredly prevent our models from generating unlicensed IP or degrading pornography without blunt approaches that alienate our core audience”.
taytus 1 day ago||
How much money did they burn on this? And for what? Nothing?
digitalsushi 8 hours ago|
They paid for an opportunity. Sometimes paying for a chance nets you nothing.

If you end up with nothing in aggregate for the chances you pay for, you're a loser. Not in a pejorative sense, just as a fact, you lost.

If you come out with more than nothing, in aggregate, you're a winner, in the same objective sense.

Probably controversial. Eh.

dev1ycan 21 hours ago||
Bahaha.
glass1122 6 hours ago||
One of the best news after a long time, LOL!! Sooner or later expecting more good news from all these AI slops and BS. RIP My Friend. never used SORA or even visited the website. LOL!!
CamelCaseName 20 hours ago||
The owner of @Sora on twitter must be really regretting turning down the $20MM buyout offer for the handle!
atleastoptimal 23 hours ago|
This will happen with most offerings made by the major AI labs. Inference is expensive, and the closer they get to AGI, the higher the opportunity to use compute for inference rather than training, especially if it’s for making what is essentially entertainment that many people hate on principle.
davebranton 23 hours ago|
Indeed. But they won't get to "AGI", because that goal isn't even remotely defined. A "human-level" intelligence implies a large number of properties that cannot exist inside an inference machine. Dreams, for example, might be considered to be a part of "human-level" intelligence. Will the machine dream?

What happens if you turn a "human-level" intelligence off? Did you kill someone?

AGI is a pipe dream - and moreover it's not even something that anyone actually wants.

supern0va 22 hours ago|||
>Will the machine dream?

You seem to be mixing up intelligence and consciousness. Not only does intelligence exist outside of humans, and even mammals, but it exists outside of brains and even neurons. For example, slime molds have fascinating problem solving abilities: https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2012.11811

It is clear that whatever we are...creating/growing with LLMs, it is very unlike human intelligence, but it is nonetheless some type of intelligence.

atleastoptimal 23 hours ago|||
agi just means a machine, system or whatever that can do anything as least as well as a human. The details dont matter as much as its ability to match humans in everything they are paid money to do.

And obviously if such a system existed, the benefits (and risks) would be enormous, though the risks are smaller if you control it vs someone else, which is why every company is racing towards it.