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Posted by jakelsaunders94 20 hours ago

Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?(blog.jakesaunders.dev)
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rednafi 17 hours ago|
I'm not bored of the technology per se but the people around it. The yappers, doomers, and the shills are insufferable.
peterlk 19 hours ago||
Modern AI is a miracle. The math that makes it work is beautiful and really impressive. For example, if you wanted to map all knowledge on earth, how would you do it? AI answers that question by building a high dimensional vector space of embeddings, and traversing that space moves you through a topology of basically every concept that humans have.

Or another thought; why is it that a stochastic parrot can solve logic puzzles consistently and accurately? It might not be 100%, but it’s still much better than what you might expect from a markov model of ngrams.

Openclaw is only sort of interesting. How to vibe code your first product is uninteresting. Claims about productivity increase from model usage are speculative and uninteresting. Endless think pieces on the effects of AI slop are uninteresting. There’s a lot of hype and grift and bullshit that is downstream of this very interesting technology, and basically none of that is interesting. The cool parts are when you actually open the models up and try to figure out what’s going on.

So no, I’m not bored of talking about AI. I’m not sure I ever will be. My suspicion is that those who are bored of it aren’t digging deep enough. With that said, that will likely only be interesting to people who think math is fun and cool. On the whole, AI is unlikely to affect our lives in proportion to the ink spilled by influencers.

jakelsaunders94 18 hours ago||
This is a really intersting take, and maybe shows that I haven't been thorough enough with my reading. My guess is that the deep technical articles are few and far between and the higher level 'hot takes' are what fills the room. Do you have any recommendations for interesting places to start?
peterlk 18 hours ago||
My favorites are the micrograd series by Andrej Karpathy on youtube [0], and “Why Deep Learning Works Unreasonably Well” [1]

The greats on youtube are also worth watching: 3B1B, numberphile, etc.

[0] https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAqhIrjkxbuWI23v9cThsA9Gv... [1] https://youtu.be/qx7hirqgfuU?si=8zmrbazuvnz379gk

Chinjut 19 hours ago|||
Why is it that a stochastic parrot can solve logic puzzles consistently and accurately?
peterlk 18 hours ago||
Attention is all you need…?

The short answer, as far as I’m aware, is that no one really knows. The longer answer is that we have a lot of partial answers that, in my mind, basically boil down to: model architectures draw a walk through the high dimensional vector space of concepts, and we’ve tuned them to land on the right answer. The fact that they do so consistently says something about how we encode logic in language and the effectiveness of these embedding/latent spaces.

bigstrat2003 17 hours ago||
> Or another thought; why is it that a stochastic parrot can solve logic puzzles consistently and accurately? It might not be 100%...

It can't. As you say in the very next sentence. If it isn't solving any given puzzle with a 100% success rate, but randomly failing, then it isn't consistent.

pjmlp 8 hours ago||
I couldn't wait for the bubble to pop, everything is getting tied to AI KPIs.
doug_durham 18 hours ago||
Nope. It remains the most dynamic and impactful area in software today. I'm sure it will fade in to common practice over the next few years and become less talked about. I find it infinitely more interesting than yet another article talking about the wonders/horrors of the Rust borrow checker.
leephillips 13 hours ago||
I’m certainly tired of hearing about it. HN is inundated by repetitive, boring AI articles. This helps a bit I think: https://hn-ai.org/.
YmiYugy 19 hours ago||
I'm bloody sick of it, but more exhausted than bored. My workflow that was pretty stable for years, keeps changing massively on an almost monthly basis and that means I'm already skipping the fads of the week. What's more annoying is that it feels actually worth it and thus keeps me churning.
KPGv2 13 hours ago||
Yes. My Android feed's Github repos are always AI these days. HN is 50+% AI posts. And I just built a NAS that is about 50% more expensive than it would have been without AI.

I'm so exhausted by this and ready for the economic crash.

bdangubic 13 hours ago|
economic crash will make it even worse unfortunately
mirekrusin 19 hours ago||
Talking about AI being boring is boring as hell for sure.
tonymet 16 hours ago||
Like many endeavors, the most vocal in favor or against aren't really doing much. The people actually succeeding with AI probably aren't interested in giving away their secrets.

AI is especially sensitive to this. Unlike coding, where giving away the secret sauce also makes you look smart, divulging AI secrets only demystifies you -- revealing the shriveling man behind the Wizards curtain.

So anyone boasting about AI is likely not doing anything useful with it.

Similar to finance tips, btw.

QubridAI 19 hours ago|
Honestly, a bit but only because the hype cycle is louder than the genuinely interesting work.
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