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Posted by skogstokig 20 hours ago

Flighty Airports(flighty.com)
486 points | 166 commentspage 2
pinkmuffinere 20 hours ago||
I think this may be a 'bug': as you zoom into the US west coast, SAN is visible before LAX. But LAX serves much more people every day, so a random person is much more likely to care about LAX. Intuitively, it seems to me that LAX should show up first. That could be intentional, but I can't think of a good reason why that choice would be made.
mh- 16 hours ago||
Google Maps has had this bug with street names not revealing based on any rational priority at varying zoom levels.. for like a decade.

I'm going to start using this as an interview question for people to solve.

16bytes 4 hours ago||
If you think this is an easy problem to solve, here's an old article that discusses some of the challenges in doing so:

https://medium.com/google-design/google-maps-cb0326d165f5

mh- 4 hours ago||
I don't think it's an easy problem to solve at all, that's why I quipped about making it an interview problem. :) In an interview, I'm just interested in hearing people talk through trying to solve difficult problems. Getting to a solution is incidental. And it's way more fun when I don't know of a go-to solution, either.
phinnaeus 19 hours ago|||
Similar in Australia, BNE shows up before SYD.

Edit: actually it's even weirder. Here's the zoom levels I see, from zoomed out, to zoomed in:

- BNE, MEL

- BNE, SYD, MEL

- BNE, CBR, MEL (??)

- BNE, SYD, CBR, MEL

friendzis 6 hours ago|||
This screams vibe-coded slop. Think about it, if you were to implement zoom based detail level, you would have to try hard to introduce a bug on line 3, yet it happens to hit prod.

Yet, this thread is full of people defending this pre-alpha quality thing.

chupchap 19 hours ago|||
Haha I came in to write the exact same thing. Such a weird choice
friendzis 6 hours ago|||
Not only that, but airports blink in-and-out of existence as you zoom or pan the map around. It can't even decide if it wants to show a certain airport or not.
jerlam 19 hours ago|||
I think the map is biased towards airports with the most disruptions, not the largest.
elAhmo 6 hours ago||
Flighty is nearly useless when using low-cost carriers, such as RyanAir, WizzAir, etc, which seem to be predominantly covering destinations I use.
dneri 8 hours ago||
Flighty is easily my favorite iOS app. I fly 10-20 times a year, mostly recreationally, and have come to rely on Flighty for travel updates, tracking my partners flights, and general stats through their Passport feature. Beautifully designed, and it just seems like they’ve really thought through every feature. It’s the gold standard for apps.
friendzis 13 hours ago||
Note: the web interface exposes minimal info, the rest is hidden in a mac-only app. Don't bother.
dewey 9 hours ago||
It has always been an iPhone app for many years, only now they have exposed some information on the site (Probably for getting incoming links), so this is more interesting if you are already an existing user of the app.
mi_lk 9 hours ago|||
You only really need to know when (departure/arrival time) and where (terminal/gate), no?

What else necessary info that’s missing?

cantalopes 13 hours ago|||
I mean, still better than having to go to airports' official pages
friendzis 12 hours ago||
A select airport view has flight data limited to some x hours, meaning you cannot even see if a flight later in the day is still scheduled to arrive on time without consulting those official pages anyway. So quite objectively no, it's not even objectively worse, it's effectively useless.

Going back to a map view from an airport view resets the map, so exploration for fun is again borderline unusable.

stotlem 9 hours ago||
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RobotToaster 9 hours ago||
Was going to say this. I'm getting real tired of sites trying to force me to download their spyware apps
reason3316 16 hours ago||
Flighty is terrific, well worth the subscription cost. I'm delighted to see a replacement for the last part of FlightAware I still used.
aresant 18 hours ago||
Clicked this and was hopeful it was a TSA-line-tracker

Anybody have a good solution that's utilizing actual traveler data vs the (non existent atm) TSA data?

halapro 16 hours ago|
How do you expect that to work? Automatic reporting is impossible, you have to rely on individuals to arrive there, open the app and take a guess. Then by the time you see the report the line is long gone (or tripled)

This request has no basis in reality.

awill 16 hours ago|||
Not sure how they're getting their data, but https://tsa.fromthetraytable.com/
Shank 15 hours ago||
> Due to the federal funding lapse, this airport has temporarily suspended wait time reporting. Allow significantly more time at security and check with your airline for flight status.

Well, some of them directly from TSA?

TheDong 14 hours ago|||
Ideally the TSA at each airport would measure it and release it. They should be measuring it anyway since they should both have efficiency targets for how much of a delay they introduce, and also so that they can show data about how much or little inconvenience they cause when DOGE finally comes to cut one of the actually utterly useless government expenditures.

Since the TSA doesn't seem to be releasing this data though, apple or google could spy on GPS and motion data for individuals to estimate when people entire the line and pass through security, and derive a better-than-nothing estimate. It does seem like the government refusing to do something, and apple/google stepping in and doing a government-like thing is a norm, so even though I'm joking I wouldn't even be that surprised.

codingjoe 6 hours ago||
Does it show ICEy conditions too?
exidy 18 hours ago||
While I appreciate the aesthetics of this feature I actually fear it represents a loss of focus for Flighty. As a traveller, I don't need a global view of airport disruptions, I need relevant info for my flights.

Given the prominent TV Mode button in the interface, this update seems to be about competing with Flightradar24, who sell business subscriptions for airports and related sectors for information displays.

ymolodtsov 12 hours ago||
I disagree. I live in Lisbon and the local airport is in a pretty bad condition these days. It's helpful to be able to get a general view.
jitl 16 hours ago|||
it sounds like the app already does what you need it to do. developers can spend a few hours on something other than #1 most pressing core feature every now and then.
JCharante 13 hours ago||
the app has so many bugs and missing features, I'm not a heavy user just like 60 flights a year but I love and hate flighty
dewey 9 hours ago|||
Having the departure / arrival boards of the airports in the app in a easy to find and uniform way is a great feature and is exactly what I pay Flighty for. Having to find this information on airport websites is horrible and the alternative websites for that are usually filled with ads or behind a lock screen.

I'd say that's exactly the focus for Flighty to have that.

bronco21016 16 hours ago|||
I agree. The reason I love Flighty vs FlightAware or Flightradar24 is because the app is solely focused on my flights. The real-time tactical information about delays and inbound aircraft is so good that it is very heavily used by airline employees since even the airlines are not great about providing this data in a timely fashion to their front line employees.

The dashboard is really nice and if it remained free I could see integrating it into a display's playlist in my office but, I highly doubt this doesn't turn into a hefty subscription service.

kylehotchkiss 17 hours ago|||
They can do both things at once. Airports desperately need to be displaying accurate information and stop letting gate agents make random calls based on their interpreting of company policy
logifail 16 hours ago||
> Airports desperately need to be displaying accurate information [..]

Airports and airlines may have information that they deliberately do not share with passengers.

For example: a large European airport that I once did some work for ran a trial in which they announced departure boarding gates significantly earlier. The effect was that passengers went to their gates earlier.

The side effect was that retail revenues in the terminal fell during the trial. Yes, this was a metric.

Guess what? They decided not to proceed with announcing departure gates earlier and went back to the previous system.

splitbrainhack 17 hours ago||
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jt2190 19 hours ago|
I was thinking this was something to help estimate the time to get through airport security. It's still very cool, though. I love the TV mode!
Esophagus4 18 hours ago|
MyTSA has that (or… I presume will have that again once TSA is back online).

Individual airports also may have wait times on their website, but results can vary.

jt2190 8 hours ago||
Yeah, I think that flighty already aggregates various data sources to predict flight delays, I thought maybe they were expanding to include security wait times.
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