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Posted by amarcheschi 11 hours ago

End of "Chat Control": EU parliament stops mass surveillance(www.patrick-breyer.de)
525 points | 259 commentspage 4
rvz 7 hours ago|
Until next time.
fsflover 7 hours ago||
Related discussion : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47529646
cynicalsecurity 8 hours ago||
A big W, for now.

Until we meet again.

varispeed 10 hours ago||
This is a clear case of a terrorist attack attempt (Chat Control fulfils definition of terrorism fully). Chat Controls would be illegal in Germany.

This is sad that this has gotten this far. If they wanted to pass a law to blow up citizens, do you think European Parliament would seriously consider it? It is exactly the same calibre of idiocy.

I would expect German authorities to issue arrest warrants and properly investigate this.

For context:

If terrorism is defined as using violence or threats to intimidate a population for political or ideological ends, then “Chat Control” qualifies in substance. Violence doesn’t have to leave blood. Psychological and coercive violence is recognised in domestic law (see coercive control offences) and by the WHO. It causes measurable harm to bodies and minds.

The aim is intimidation. The whole purpose is to make people too scared to speak freely. That is intimidation of a population, by design.

It is ideological. The ideology is mass control - keeping people compliant by stripping them of private spaces to think, talk, and dissent.

The only reason it’s not “terrorism” on paper is because states write definitions that exempt themselves. But in plain terms, the act is indistinguishable in effect from terrorism: deliberate fear, coercion, and the destruction of free will.

techteach00 8 hours ago|
I agree that it's an act of state sponsored terrorism. Don't let the down votes make you feel alone.
varispeed 6 hours ago||
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umren 9 hours ago||
Chat Control 3.0 will go through
Arubis 5 hours ago||
Good.

Now let's start preparing for the next one.

Ms-J 9 hours ago||
Maybe it is time to make start a prediction market?

Any time a scumbag politician tries this again:

"Mr. Jones, secretary of communications for the state, TTL (Time-to-live) left. 2 Hours? 1 Day? 1 Week?"

It would stop fast.

Anyone want to build this? There is a lot of money being left on the table.

DaSHacka 8 hours ago|
Wouldn't this have the opposite effect? Seems to play right into their hands that they need mass surveillance for "" safety"" reasons
woodpanel 3 hours ago||
Never forget:

> We decide something, then put it in the room and wait some time to see what happens. If there is no big shouting and no uprisings, because most do not understand what it is about, then we continue - step by step until there is no turning back. – Jean Claude Juncker, then President of the EU Commission

They will try this again. And again. And again. They will never stop.

They are not your friends.

canticleforllm 9 hours ago||
How long until they stage an incident to occur so they can pass CC 1.1? 6 months? 2 years?
anthk 8 hours ago|
Goid news, now stop the age bullshit in CA.
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