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Posted by speckx 2 days ago

Make macOS consistently bad unironically(lr0.org)
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alzar 2 days ago|
great catch on the corner inconsistency. hadnt noticed until reading this now i cant unsee it.

this is actually one of the reasons i ended up going all in on a tiling wm (aerospace). once youre tiling, windows are edge to edge so the corner radius thing mostly disappears. the trade off is giving up floating windows,

the DYLD_INSERT_LIBRARIES approach is clever though. making everything consistently rounded is way more pragmatic than fighting apples design decisions or disabling SIP.

rafram 2 days ago||
This isn’t a part of macOS 26 that bothers me, honestly. I don’t spend a lot of time stacking windows and measuring their corners.
kibwen 2 days ago||
In other words, MacOS is fine as long as you're undiscerning and not at all detail-oriented. Imagine telling Steve Jobs that this was the prevailing attitude needed to make using a Mac bearable.
rafram 2 days ago||
These inconsistent corner radii are actually intentional, FWIW - the radius depends on the window’s function (main, utility, etc.). I don’t think it looks great, but there’s no lack of attention to detail.
hbn 55 minutes ago||
I'm not sure where you got that idea. The inconsistency is from a few years ago when they pushed for rounding the windows more than they have been for years, and then a further rounding in Tahoe, but not all developers following suit. All of Apple's own apps use the latest iPad/Fisher Price-esque border radius, but most third party apps are not.

I can compare Safari to System Settings and they have the same new rounding. It's nothing to do with utility vs "main" (whatever that is)

dilap 2 days ago|||
i use a an auto-layout tool, so having windows stacked on top of each other is super-common for me, and the fact that they all peak thru each other (like the screenshot in the blog) looking absolutely terrible drives me crazy
mabedan 2 days ago|||
To me it's a little like the situation with charging the Mighty Mouse. It's become a meme to post a picture of it on its side being charged, but if you own one it doesn't really matter, as you charge it once a month for 15 minutes while you're at lunch.

There are things which definitely do bother me like the Liquid Glass, but the window corners really don't bother me. And I'm into design and constantly inspect parts of ui with Digital Color Meter app.

yborg 2 days ago||
You have a truly Magic Mouse if yours charges in 15 minutes. In my experience, it is hours to charge from zero, which until I put an always-running monitor in the menu bar for the mouse battery level is what you are guaranteed to have since there is no other indicator of mouse battery level.

I used to roll my eyes at the complaints until I actually had one of these, and it is appallingly bad engineering. Especially since the previous design, which was functionally identical just needed a 10 second battery swap.

JellyPlan 2 days ago|||
I don't either, the only thing that annoys me is it's much harder to resize windows, so the usability is worse
rc_kas 2 days ago||
I truly hate it, so so much. Mentally I'm already planning out what OS I'm going to migrate to.
LtWorf 2 days ago||
Try both gnome and kde if you come on linux, and remember that on kde you can customize anything you don't like.
technical_sway 2 days ago||
I'm sure they'll try to market this as a feature so you can see how many windows you have open
dcrazy 2 days ago||
FYI, the article incorrectly claims that SIP just controls write access to /. It does way more than that.
lapcat 2 days ago|
I don't see where it says that. Can you provide a direct quote?
dcrazy 2 days ago||
Footnote 2.
lapcat 2 days ago||
The footnote 2 link doesn't actually work for me, for whatever reason.

What does it say?

rzzzt 2 days ago|||
"Arguable, since you just loose security over /root, which is not a big deal if someone already gained access to your machine, at least for me."

It doesn't render for me either, but is in the HTML at path...

.../html/body/div/div/main/div[3]/div[6]/div/div[2]/div/p

Edit: SIP has a series of control bits for a diverse set of protections. You can see what these control (and which bits "csrutil disable" toggles) in this include file: https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/xnu/blob/f6217f89...

dcrazy 2 days ago||
The link or the footnote itself doesn’t render for you? It renders on mobile Safari, just by scrolling to the bottom of the page.
rzzzt 1 day ago||
The footnotes appear to the left of the main body of text around the position they appear in (viewing in a desktop browser). The article has grown a third note in the meantime and these are all visible now.
gnarlouse 2 days ago||
One of my claude code projects was going to be "theghostofsteve", a social media platform where people post things they love and hate about appleOS things. Likes/Dislikes would be "genius/it's shit". And in all likelihood, the platform would surface that most users think "it's shit."

The platform would aggregate by major/minor version, and you could see in totality whether the current version of macOS/iOS would make Steve proud of miserable.

Ultimately I decided against it, for defamation/cease-and-desist reasons, and not wanting to find out. But it needs to exist.

Joel_Mckay 2 days ago||
Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak were a team, and Jobs would regularly tell people their work was "shit" if it didn't make sense.

Apple traditionally burned out its talent, and is no longer structured to follow Jobs original vision. There is a lot of goodwill with the users, but just like Sony/HP/IBM/Microsoft/Sun it can't last forever. The process-people entrench themselves, and ruin everything... just as Jobs predicted. =3

gnarlouse 1 day ago||
What does Woz have to do with it
Joel_Mckay 1 day ago||
Jobs often set project goals well beyond current technology, and the people around him were responsible for actually getting product out the door.

Naively asserting stuff is "Shit" and firing people that disagree with you on superficial deliverables is not a difficult role. However, teams pushing new technology out to the general public is challenging, and even Apple gambled on the wrong product at times.

Jobs was right about a lot of marketing trends, but also was a controversial character. I would recommend watching the classic interview just prior to his return to Apple, as it aged well... =3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRZAJY23xio

ykl 2 days ago||
Wouldn’t “insanely great”/“it’s shit” be more Steve than “genius”/“it’s shit”?
gnarlouse 1 day ago||
Sure, you could use whatever binarism you want
stackghost 2 days ago||
I feel like the only dude on the planet who uses fullscreen workspaces on Mac.

The number of times I have noticed the corner of my windows is precisely zero because each important application gets its own workspace, so the window frame doesn't get rendered. Sometimes I'll tile two windows side by side on my external monitor but even then this is a complete non issue for me.

Are you guys just running everything on the one desktop workspace in windowed mode? That seems like madness.

fingerlocks 2 days ago|
I asked this same question years ago in one of those threads that was all windows people complaining about cmd+tab. No responses.

That means there are exactly two of us.

stackghost 1 day ago||
Fullscreen gang assemble!
skrrtww 2 days ago||
I'm not sure if these selectors are hit in SwiftUI or not.
JohannesCortez 2 days ago||
One way to make the mac consistent
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