Posted by amarcheschi 2 days ago
Did you find something malicious in the random GitHub repo? If so, you should write an article about that instead.
https://www.encryptionconsulting.com/top-10-supply-chain-att...
Are you aware that common libraries like Bootstrap, FontAwesome, and HTMX walk developers through linking to their CDNs directly? In fact, FontAwesome recommends it for CDN performance.
I think you're dangerously mistaken if you believe that it "literally never" happens. It literally does happen all the damned time. And, for your own safety and others', you should assume that when you use any app for which you don't have the source code.
There's also a difference between using a CDN for, say, React and a random github project hosted by some dude.
Imagine they're downloading a project directly from your GitHub account. Even if you're not doing anything malicious and have no intention of doing anything malicious even after you've been aware of this, now all of a sudden your GitHub account / email is a huge target for anyone that wants to do something malicious.
Boostrap (code snippet from their quick start instructions): ``` <head> <meta charset="utf-8"> <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1"> <title>Bootstrap demo</title> <link href="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/bootstrap@5.3.8/dist/css/bootst..." rel="stylesheet" integrity="sha384-sRIl4kxILFvY47J16cr9ZwB07vP4J8+LH7qKQnuqkuIAvNWLzeN8tE5YBujZqJLB" crossorigin="anonymous"> </head>
<script src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/@popperjs/core@2.11.8/dist/umd/..." integrity="sha384-I7E8VVD/ismYTF4hNIPjVp/Zjvgyol6VFvRkX/vR+Vc4jQkC+hVqc2pM8ODewa9r" crossorigin="anonymous"></script> <script src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/bootstrap@5.3.8/dist/js/bootstr..." integrity="sha... ```
Pay close attention, they are inviting the new developer to link not just to Bootstrap, but to Popper!
HTMX (code snippet from their quick start guide): ``` <script src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/htmx.org@2.0.8/dist/htmx.min.js"></script> <!-- have a button POST a click via AJAX --> <button hx-post="/clicked" hx-swap="outerHTML"> Click Me </button> ```
Fontawesome: A video quick start guide and instructions that recommends using the direct link to the kits via CDN for performance!
Look, I certainly don't think they should be used this way. But, to say that it's unique to the White House app? I definitely wouldn't say that. In fact, I think you've dangerously overestimated the status quo.
You don't do this in any non-trivial system.
So, it's nice that you don't do this. But there's nothing special about the White House app doing it. It's very common.
I'd bet something like 70+% of all JS apps are inadequately protected against the risk of a malicious actor gaining access to a dependency's repo.
Pearlclutching over this while ignoring the lessons of `left-pad` and `colors` is biased motivated reasoning at best.
there are several corpo open source ai apps that have rce built in.
to cut a long story short they pull their config from the developer's server on startup. that config has user level permissions giving rce.
some have no rce but get remote executed exfiltration of all the prompts. the app pulls its posthog config on startup and can just take all the keyboard inputs.
submit a disclosure and they do nothing or accuse of 'ai slop reports' despite being vibe coded themselves
I'm well aware of supply chain attacks. But this isn't a supply chain attack. If it were, the article would be way more interesting.
The supply chain attack articles are interesting exactly because this is so common. So what's special here other than it being loosely related to a disliked political figure? HN isn't supposed to be an especially political website.
"A common app is doing the same thing that basically every other app is doing."
Is that a good headline? No. And this isn't a good article.
It's an article that includes coverage of the exposure to supply chain attacks, mainly via directly linking in https://lonelycpp.github.io/react-native-youtube-iframe/ifra.... You seem to be flippantly dismissing this as insignificant given the people who are probably running this app.
> HN isn't supposed to be an especially political website.
Yes but when technology and politics cross paths...
If you enjoy reading about how a guy smelled another guy's underpants and discovered that they smell like everyone else's, then rest assured, you can continue reading it over and over again if you like. I'm not able to down vote, so your enjoyment is safe from my opinion.
If he finds something interesting in there (I hope he does), and writes another article I might miss it, unfortunately, because I've written him off as a trash piece author.
EDIT: I went to use this as an example. Hilarious, this blog now has a bad SSL cert, just to put the icing on the cake.
This is bad for security.
To mix the metaphors further, they (the politicians and their supporters) fancy themselves the kind to dream of things that never were and ask why not. Why not have a war in Iran? You won't know until you give it a try.
A random person with pronouns, no less. That means the code is “woke.”
I guess there’s some workplaces where it’d be useful for me to update these, probably the ones Apple PMs work in.
In the US, the faction in power right now is attacking perceived symbols of "woke" ideology, and one of them is the use of pronouns.
As I understand it, some government agencies are even forbidding the use of pronouns in e-mail signatures etc. So it struck me as ironic that a software component with pronouns would have evaded their notice.
I have no problem with the use of pronouns.
Inferring pronouns has always been dumb and annoying. Many names don't have obvious pronouns, for example, the name "Taylor". Is that he or she? And clicking the little profile icon and squinting to see if someone is a man or a woman is also a waste of time. It's a lot easier for everyone if it just tells you the pronoun.
It's not that hard to just avoid it. I send emails to a lot of people I haven't spoken to and don't know their gender, so I write gender-neutral emails.
In the 1970s and 1980s it was the default in many Commonwealth locales to not assume that (say) Rob Owens writing mathematics and engineering papers was male (as it turns out, she isn't, the Rob is short for Robyn).
So much correspondence was with people who had Initial Surname or abstract handles that didn't broadcast gender.
I guess I'm just not really understanding people getting upset at what I perceive to be completely made up problems. We have technology, we no longer have to assume gender neutral pronouns for everyone. They can just tell us the pronouns they want.
I am sure if you decompile other apps used by hundreds of thousands of people, you would find all sorts of tracking in there.
Thanks for helping the White House improve their app security for free though.
You load arbitrary JS from a random GitHub user's NPM package. What's the difference?
You'd be surprised how many apps inside have hacks and workarounds because deadlines.
I always joke that we could probably tell you what color and type your underwear is on any random day with how much data is siphoned off your phone.
As for loading random JS, yeah also seen that done that before. "Partner A wants to integrate their SDK in our webviews." -> "Partner A" SDK is just loading a JS chunk in that can do whatever they want in webviews, including load more files.
Don't get me started on the sports betting SDKs...
Though we do have a Security team constantly scanning SDKs and the endpoints for changes in situations like this.
Partner A is not random JS. The assumption there is 1) you have some official signed agreement with them and 2) you've done your due diligence to ensure you can use them in this way.
It's not just some person's GH repo who can freely change that file to whatever they want.
Hotlinking is as old as the internet, and a well-worn security threat.
Since when is the government a slick and efficiently run outfit that produces secure and well-done software products? Does no one remember the original Obamacare launch?
It’s hard to imagine a smug article like this dissecting a product of some other administration. There’s something very weird and off about stuff like this.
Injects JavaScript into every website you open through its in-app browser to hide cookie consent dialogs, GDPR banners, login walls, signup walls, upsell prompts, and paywalls.
Has a full GPS tracking pipeline compiled in that polls every 4.5 minutes in the foreground and 9.5 minutes in the background, syncing lat/lng/accuracy/timestamp to OneSignal's servers.
Loads JavaScript from a random person's GitHub Pages site (lonelycpp.github.io) for YouTube embeds. If that account is compromised, arbitrary code runs in the app's WebView.
Loads third-party JavaScript from Elfsight (elfsightcdn.com/platform.js) for social media widgets, with no sandboxing.
Sends email addresses to Mailchimp, images are served from Uploadcare, and a Truth Social embed is hardcoded with static CDN URLs. None of this is government infrastructure.
Has no certificate pinning. Standard Android trust management.
Ships with dev artifacts in production. A localhost URL, a developer IP (10.4.4.109), the Expo dev client, and an exported Compose PreviewActivity.
Profiles users extensively through OneSignal - tags, SMS numbers, cross-device aliases, outcome tracking, notification interaction logging, in-app message click tracking, and full user state observation.
Did the other administration put a "fake news" and "report to ICE" and grifting link to their own social network in their apps? I feel like you are perhaps papering over a whole lot of general shittiness of this app that didn't exist in less amateur previous administrations that at least tried to follow the norms.
The only case they cite of an actual intervention resulting seems... entirely legit?
> An adult entertainment club lost its liquor license after a dancer and others were seen not wearing masks, the state said.
People call 911 for goofy things, too.
Also I'd say the federal government's approach to ICE deportations is a little stronger than even the COVID measures.
Wasn't that written by a private company? Canadian, IIRC.
Yes, that's because this administration is uniquely awful. Basically every single thing this administration does is bad. Often so bad that it's legitimately impressive just how incompetent our leaders our.
Obviously previous administrations were not perfect, but to sit here and pretend that they are on the same level is delusion.
A baseless ideological claim.