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Posted by hrncode 10 hours ago

LinkedIn uses 2.4 GB RAM across two tabs

https://ibb.co/fYQVfMWp https://ibb.co/MyTNnrGQ
437 points | 275 comments
denysvitali 1 hour ago|
The juxtaposition between this and "Voyager 1 runs on 69 KB of memory and an 8-track tape recorder" is probably the best one I've seen in a long time
nshelia 1 hour ago|
We now have simple chat apps capable of doing almost anything LinkedIn does while using under 100 MB of RAM.
denysvitali 1 hour ago||
A probe collecting data in space takes <70 kB of memory. I fail to see how this statement should make me feel happy
mattmanser 49 minutes ago||
As someone was pointing out in a thread the other day about memory usage, a lot is fonts and images.
littlestymaar 13 minutes ago||
Aka poor resources management.

If you have significantly more images loaded in RAM than what fits on your screen, something wrong is going on. (Not counting the filesystem cache here, because it works in a best effort way).

eximius 3 hours ago||
Let's be real, LinkedIn is full of LinkedIn Lunatics but pretty much all mainstream social media is pretty shit. They're just different flavors of shit. LinkedIn: bad. Facebook: bad. Twitter: I literally think it contributed to the collapse of discourse and rise of shallow thought / rejection of expertise. I'm not going to list more because the theme is, you guessed it, they're bad.

Google+ had promise in that the many problems of the other platforms could be curtailed with tooling to make your social experience effectively local (not necessarily geographically).

mahirsaid 3 hours ago||
Im pretty sure that is the current sentiment amongst the judicial body at the moment, Meta and Google have been taking blows left and right. They are also not allowing else to take shape that might make their business model obsolete. With all that we have more and more laws that are redistricting the use of social media by their own bad doing. So if another company wants to offer something innovative, now they have an unfair playing ground due to the enormous amount of regulation that are NOW being implemented. Another words the longer these large tech companies are able to keep their business the harder it is for innovation in this sector from other players. The spill over to polotics is dangerous and counter-productive to innovating technology.
salawat 2 hours ago||
When your definition of innovation includes "move fast, break things, ignore regulations until you can scale big enough for the lawyers hopefully to outpace the legal system" it is arguable that any of that should be allowed at all. There's room for leniency for innovation sake, then there's building the wrong damn thing and not taking no for an answer when you should. Tech is beyond that point by leaps and bounds.
tombert 1 hour ago|||
I agree with most of what you said, but LinkedIn, at least at a superficial level, is the absolute worst to me. It's full of a bunch of inspiration-porn bullshit that I find unbelievably mind-numbing, but also people treat it like Facebook and post a bunch of political and divisive shit on there as well.

I wouldn't care if people posted political and divisive shit, and I would really prefer to delete it, but now a lot of job applications require that you give them a LinkedIn URL. I've debated putting something like "https://linkedin.dont.have.one" or something but I suspect that would immediately put me in the reject pile.

So I'm forced to have an account on a shitty product that is strictly terrible with not a single redeeming feature and it just sort of happened. I guess Microsoft's typical practice, to be fair.

pks016 1 hour ago|||
I think Google closed Google+ because it worked as social media and they couldn't find better ways to exploit users.
raphar 50 minutes ago||
Fools, they lost a source of very valuable training data.
nelsonic 19 minutes ago||
Nope. Google+ was a ghost town. They made the right call to shut it down and focus their efforts on YouTube.

The videos and comments on YT are superb training data, every bit as good as Google+ was.

In 2025, YouTube’s total revenue (advertising + subscriptions like YouTube Premium and TV) surpassed $60 billion. If they spun out YT it would have a market cap $500-600bn putting it in the top 20 companies. Google+ would never have been worth much as the 7th most popular social network.

freehorse 7 minutes ago|||
> comments on YT are superb training data

This I find hard to believe. Most YT comments are just noise. Even the UX of writing comments in YT is just terrible. Comments randomly appear and disappear, and you are never sure if it is some yt algorithm, a technical issue or specific moderation practice. I am pretty sure if they valued yt comments as data, they would have put a bit more effort into that side of their platform.

shwaj 8 minutes ago|||
The videos are good training data, but the comments? The comment UX is so non-conducive to discussion, and the general quality is very low compared to what used to be on Google+ (to be fair, the self-selected users of Google+ were not representative of the general population).
estebank 3 hours ago|||
Social media being bad is partly because of shady business practices, and partly because a lot of people suck (in different ways, at different times, including us).

Having said that all of that, have you tried mastodon?

eximius 2 hours ago|||
Mastodon, Bluesky, etc are neat - both in what they're trying to be and their technology. But ultimately these days I reject them in favor of more local socialization (again, not geographically). What this looks like is a constellation of private (or pseudo private) discord communities. If I make friends in one, I often get invited to another. I recognize the merit in broader social forums like Mastodon, but it is not worth the drawbacks to me.

As an aside, I'm not happy with Discord as a platform so I'm working on my own clone with some common identity stuff but with community servers run independently. That is, there are some "federated" identity providers so community servers can agree on identity across servers, then each community server runs its own thing. The trust model is based on the community server - private channels in a community server are not E2E encrypted, you must trust the server. But DMs and DM groups are E2E encrypted and use mutual community servers as relays (with a special class of relay server for people who want to DM but don't have an actual mutual server). I'm having fun with it. Now if only I could figure out why my video has such high latency (even locally!).

deanishe 1 hour ago|||
A large part of the problem, imo, is that people haven't used the ability to talk to the entire planet as an opportunity to broaden their horizons, but to build themselves a transnational bubble of like-minded individuals.

Once upon a time, shouting "WTF are they thinking?" into the void was kinda understandable, but these days you can literally just ask them by changing a URL. Don't even have to go to a dodgy pub in an iffy part of town.

That said, assuming bad faith is so common these days, many people assume you're lying if your stated motives don't match their preconceptions.

KellyCriterion 41 minutes ago|||
To me LinkedIn always seems like a coporate ad newsfeed for adults who subscribe voluntarily to get the stuff? :-)
hatsix 30 minutes ago||
nah, their feed became algo driven just like FB... im constantly seeing things that I have no relation to
fritzo 2 hours ago|||
Sorry for my ignorance, but what exactly is the distinction between hn and social media? Is it the personalization that distinguishes the two? Does "social" mean "feed depends on graph neighborhood"? So collaborative filtering + ranking algorithms + moderation is not social media until you add graph neighborhoods?
zero-st4rs 13 minutes ago|||
I think the distinction is pretty easy imo. HN is topic centered, Social Media is person-centered. Before MySpace there was a pretty big proliferation of forums and other topic centered discourse. The profile was such a minor part of those tools.

When MySpace came out, the profile was the home page for a lot of people, and the content orbited around that. Coupled with the mass movement to represent oneself faithfully online as in the real world, (maybe for banking, maybe for surveillance), I think social media sort of operates as a trap. On facebook, you are encouraged to upload your real photos of drunken night out, family vacation, or whatever IDs you in life. On LinkedIn this is mandatory, your "avatar" must mirror your physical self. I have a lot to say on this, but I think I'll just leave it at topic vs profile.

pndy 1 hour ago||||
That'd be the thing indeed.

hn is largely a technology oriented link aggregator with discussions, and probably some would also classify it as a forum. Or as social news site as goes on wikipedia among fark, slashdot and reddit. But beside a voting system, simple profiles there's nothing else - this is nearly an experience unlike anything large social network services offer.

A typical social media platform mainly exists around main stream/feed, sharing content and building profile or groups dedicated to particular topics or around known brands. That's of course the perfect unstained image because everything falls apart when we start getting into the details, such as algorithms in the work, content quality and moderation and so on.

kingstnap 1 hour ago||||
A big difference is that its culture comes from shared public experience. Everyone sees the same front page not a curated one.
serf 2 hours ago||||
well moderation is ubiquitous , but yeah -- personalization/targeting/social graph are essentially the things that people expect out of a social media platform.

I do personally think the karma thing is an aspect , because it's gamed everywhere to huge advantage -- but the altruistic view is that its a branch of moderation, an effort to democratize the removal of obviously bad actors while still facilitating dissenting or contrary speech.

I also know that's a naive view.

glitchc 2 hours ago|||
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johanneskanybal 1 hour ago|||
I kind of love Linkedin tbh. It's where you get jobs. They created Kafka. Definitly don't spend a lot of time there though just more if you need a new job.
wolvoleo 42 minutes ago|||
Linkedin is a special kind of shit. It even constantly scans for thousands of plugins.
snackerblues 21 minutes ago|||
>Twitter

X*

spike021 1 hour ago||
social media is only bad if you don't curate what you're looking at. most the platforms these days have features to block posts containing certain words or hashtags.

i've made a lot of great friends using social media over the years both where i live and in other countries.

LtWorf 1 hour ago||
It's bad because you can't curate it. For example on fb there is no way to disable reels.
spike021 1 hour ago||
I only use group pages on FB, so there are no reels.
lucb1e 6 hours ago||
AWS has a similar RAM consumption. I close Signal to make sure it doesn't crash and corrupt the message history when I need to open more than one browser tab with AWS in the work VM. I think after you click a few pages, one AWS tab was something like 1.4GB (edit: found it in message history, yes it was "20% of 7GB" = 1.4GB precisely)

Does anyone else have the feeling they run into this sort of thing more often of late? Simple pages with just text on it that take gigabytes (AWS), or pages that look simple but it takes your browser everything it has to render it at what looks like 22 fps? (Reddit's new UI and various blogs I've come across.) Or the page runs smoothly but your CPU lifts off while the tab is in the foreground? (e.g. DeepL's translator)

Every time I wonder if they had an LLM try to get some new feature or bugfix to work and it made poor choices performance-wise, but it completes unit tests so the LLM thinks it's done and also visually looks good on their epic developer machines

christophilus 1 hour ago||
I was researching laptops at BestBuy and every page took ages to load, was choppy when scrolling, caused my iPhone 13 mini to get uncomfortably hot in my hand and drained my battery fast. It wouldn’t be noticeably different if they were crypto-mining on my iPhone as I browsed their inventory.

It’s astonishing how bad the experience was.

hobobaggins 45 minutes ago||
Best Buy is actually one of the worst and slowest websites from any large retailer. I cannot believe how bad it is. It's like they set out to make it pretty and accidentally stepped in molasses.
r_lee 6 hours ago|||
I think a big problem is the fact that many web frameworks allow you to write these kind of complex apps that just "work" but performance is often not included in the equation

so it looks fine during basic testing but it scales really bad.

like for example claude/openAI web UIs, they at first would literally lag so bad because they'd just use simple updating mechanisms which would re-render the entire conversation history every time the new response text was updated

and with those console UIs, one thing that might be happening is that it's basically multiple webapps layered (per team/component/product) and they all load the same stuff multiple times etc...

machomaster 4 hours ago|||
The Grok android app is terrible in that sense. Just writing a question with a normal speed will make half of the characters not appear due to whatever unoptimized shit the app does after each keystroke.
throwuxiytayq 2 hours ago||
Sounds quite overengineered. CEOs have basically no idea what they're doing these days. If this were my company, I'd start by cutting 80% of staff and 80% of the code bloat.
taminka 4 hours ago|||
it's unironically just react lmao, virtually every popular react app has an insane number of accidental rerenders triggered by virtually everything, causing it to lag a lot
r_lee 4 hours ago|||
well that's any framework with vdom, the GC of web frameworks, so I'd imagine it's also a problem with vue etc..

I don't understand though why performance (I.e. using it properly) is not a consideration with these companies that are valued above $100 billion

like, do these poor pitiful big tech companies only have the resources to do so when they hit the 2 trillion mark or something?

array_key_first 2 hours ago|||
It's not a problem with vue or svelte because they are, ironically, reactive. React greedily rerenders.

It's also not a problem with the react compiler.

vscode-rest 3 hours ago|||
Nobody gets promoted for improving web app performance.
r_lee 3 hours ago||
yep. I think this is the root problem, not the frameworks themselves
cess11 28 minutes ago||
If it's slow people also stick around for longer if they have something they must accomplish before leaving.
rustystump 26 minutes ago|||
I think linkedin is built with emberjs not react last i checked…

The problem with performance in wep apps is often not the omg too much render. But is actually processing and memory use. Chromium loves to eat as much ram as possible and the state management world of web apps loves immutability. What happens when you create new state anytime something changes and v8 then needs to recompile an optimized structure for that state coupled with thrashing the gc? You already know.

I hate the immutable trend in wep apps. I get it but the performance is dogshite. Most web apps i have worked on spend about 10% of their cpu time…garbage collecting and the rest doing complicated deep state comparisons every time you hover on a button.

Rant over.

RunSet 4 hours ago|||
> Does anyone else have the feeling they run into this sort of thing more often of late? Simple pages with just text on it that take gigabytes (AWS), or pages that look simple but it takes your browser everything it has to render it at what looks like 22 fps?

It is to do with websites essentially baking in their own browser written in javascript to track as much user behavior as possible.

lstodd 1 hour ago||
Spot on. It's why I quit adtech in 2015. Running realtime auctions server-side is one thing, but building what basically amounts to live-feed screen capture ..
maccard 6 hours ago|||
My company started using slack in 2015 and at that time I put in a bug report to slack that their desktop app was using more memory than my IDE on a 1M+LOC C++ project. I used to stop slack to compile…
hobobaggins 43 minutes ago||
It's always good to not slack when compiling.
m132 5 hours ago|||
I noticed that there's a developing trend of "who manages to use the most CSS filters" among web developers, and it was there even before LLMs. Now that most of the web is slop in one form or another, and LLMs seem to have been trained on the worst of the worst, every other website uses an obscene amount of CSS backdrop-filter blur, which slows down software renderers and systems with older GPUs to a crawl.

When it comes to DeepL specifically, I once opened their main page and left my laptop for an hour, only to come back to it being steaming hot. Turns out there's a video around the bottom of the page (the "DeepL AI Labs" section) that got stuck in a SEEKING state, repeatedly triggering a pile of NextJS/React crap which would seek the video back, causing the SEEKING event and thus itself to be triggered again.

I wish Google would add client-side resource use to Web Vitals and start demoting poorly performing pages. I'm afraid this isn't going to change otherwise; with first complaints dating back to mid-2010s, browsers and Electron apps hogging RAM are far from new and yet web developers have only been getting increasingly disconnected from reality.

IG_Semmelweiss 6 hours ago|||
Yes, its sometimes extreme. I often wondered if it was my FF browser, but then i'd switch to Opera or Brave, and i would see the same pattern.

Its quite insane

susupro1 5 hours ago|||
Hit this exact wall with desktop wrappers. I was shipping an 800MB Electron binary just to orchestrate a local video processing pipeline.

Moved the backend to Tauri v2 and decoupled heavy dependencies (like ffmpeg) so they hydrate via Rust at launch. The macOS payload dropped to 30MB, and idle RAM settled under 80MB.

Skipping the default Chromium bundle saves an absurd amount of overhead.

inaros 5 hours ago||
What us this AWS you talk about? :-)
lucb1e 5 hours ago||
my employer's choice of premium hosting provider
inaros 4 hours ago||
I know what AWS is...that is why your statement

>> AWS has a similar RAM consumption.

Makes no sense to me...

tandr 2 hours ago|||
I think they are talking about AWS dashboard, but I might be wrong.
QuadmasterXLII 2 hours ago|||
the web interface
torginus 14 minutes ago||
While awful I would like for someone to explain what's in that 1.3GB.

In fact it's one of my major sources of unsatisfied curiousity is for someone to show a breakdown of a memory dump of a browser, to see, what happens to those gigabytes of memory consumed.

I have heard an explanation that browsers just use free ram, because unused ram is wasted, but that feels flimsy to me. It's not the browsers job to hog ram on the off chance it might need it, just ask the OS when you actually do.

kace91 7 hours ago||
I don't understand who uses that network anymore. Everytime I login it's all ai generated stories next to ai generated flavor images of people sounding like a parody of themselves ("what taking my kids to school taught me about business scaling").

Out of all places to doomscroll, why choose the one that feels like an episode of Severance?

Aurornis 3 hours ago||
Very few people with LinkedIn profiles read the social feed. Even fewer post things to it.

The majority use LinkedIn only for job searching and keeping contacts.

I do some times wonder if any hiring managers see a lot of LinkedIn social post activity as a positive thing. The few times we’ve interviewed candidates who had a lot of LinkedIn posting activity it was considered a risk: We could go through their LinkedIn activity and see that they must have been spending hours posturing on LinkedIn and replying to people everyday during the work day, which looks like a big distraction when they’re doing it constantly.

phillipcarter 1 hour ago|||
> Very few people with LinkedIn profiles read the social feed. Even fewer post things to it.

Yes, but many of the people who matter in professional domains do. Much like all social media, the prolific few who do post have outsized influence, and engaging with them can often be to your benefit.

bertylicious 14 minutes ago||
Could you please name a couple persons who matter in their professional domain, who post on LinkedIn, and who you benefited from by engaging with them on LinkedIn?
loglog 44 minutes ago||||
I recommend to block the Linkedin feed with uBlock.
estimator7292 3 hours ago||||
> I do some times wonder if any hiring managers see a lot of LinkedIn social post activity as a positive thing.

About a year ago I had a friend recommend me to their management. After three rounds of interviews, the CEO overrode the process and rejected me because I didn't have enough on my LinkedIn profile.

As far as I'm concerned, I dodged a bullet. If the CEO cares so much about LinkedIn filler that he'd overrule the hiring process, I'm certain I would have hated every moment working there.

a4isms 2 hours ago|||
Hiring can remain irrational longer than you can remain unemployed.

One manager no-hires you because you don't post enough. Another doesn't like what you post. A third thinks you post too much. A fourth is pleased you seem to pay more attention to shipping products than hot takes. A fifth loves your hot takes.

So you get a call and are asked to do a coding thing. One person no-hires you because you wrote fizz-buzz by hand and didn't use Claude. Another wants to see that you know how to code by hand, but although your solution is fast, compact, and correct, it isn't the solution they had in mind.

At the end of the day, it's a highly inefficient, mostly irrational process dominated by social factors rather than objective feature detection.

drfloyd51 2 hours ago||
Agreed.

Even if we could quantize someone into a feature matrix, every hiring process demands unique matrixes.

Even if I pass all the quantifiable stuff… the first answer to an HR “off limits” question will be given soon enough if I get the job.

Turns out being a Jesus nerd was a secret requirement.

Wish they could just put that in the job requirements.

zugi 1 hour ago||
> Turns out being a Jesus nerd was a secret requirement. Wish they could just put that in the job requirements.

Title 7 of the Civil Rights Act, in making religious hiring discrimination illegal, sometimes just drives it underground. Over the years it's done more good than harm, but at a certain point it may be time to let those who want to hire only Jesus nerds self-select.

MrDarcy 3 hours ago|||
I have consulted for CEO’s and other executives who think like this. You certainly dodged a bullet.
josteink 2 hours ago||||
> Very few people with LinkedIn profiles read the social feed.

I read somewhere that in Norway (small sample, yes I know) LinkedIn is supposedly a more popular social network than X/Twitter.

You can have whatever opinion you mean about Elon, X, free speech and whatever. I'm not here to have that discussion.

All that considered, as a Norwegian this had me quite surprised. I don't have the source anymore, but I'd love to dig into it to see what sort of metrics they use to measure this sort of popularity.

Literally nobody I know uses LinkedIn except for business-SPAM.

sunaookami 1 hour ago||
Same with Pinterest in Germany which seems bizarre to me. It's supposedly more popular than Twitter, Twitch, Snapchat, LinkedIn and Reddit (but below TikTok, Instagram and Facebook).

EDIT: Data from 2023: https://medias.smart-home-fox.de/SDE/Social%20Media%20Statis...

IshKebab 50 minutes ago|||
I dunno if that is really true. I've started posting technical things on LinkedIn because it gets pretty good engagement from real people that I know. I've also seen some great technical posts there.

Definitely outnumbered by the inspirational slop, but I think it is a real mix and really depends who you connect with.

Anyway yeah the main point of LinkedIn is to get jobs. I've got several through recruiter spam.

beAbU 6 hours ago|||
I got my last job there, and I have a steady queue of recruiters reaching out the whole time. So I will probably continue to use it as long as I need to eat. I don't engage with the feed at all though.

I believe the same applies to many others as well

bluedino 5 hours ago|||
I've also gotten my last few jobs there. It's great for that. Even if it's 90% low effort recruiter spam.

It's also full of "greatest team in the world", pizza parties, "incredible" training sessions, and "meetings of great minds". And now it's turned into a bunch of comedy reels. Blah.

sameerds 3 hours ago|||
You forgot "I am honoured and humbled to announce <insert mundane recognition>."
le-mark 3 hours ago||
The comedy/tragedy of this is; whenever I talk to people outside of engineering at social gatherings, this is what they do. Tell me their resume and accomplishments. I’m like, can we just a have a conversation please?
torginus 4 hours ago|||
I think one of the most objectively pathetic things in the world is trying to ride the counterculture wave against a thing, while shilling the exact same thing.

Hey kids, you know how influencerslop sucks? proceeds to write influencerslop

pimeys 1 hour ago||||
Beeper has LinkedIn integration, so you can chat with recruiters with any Matrix app without ever opening the website.

https://www.beeper.com/

wolvoleo 40 minutes ago||
Still need a LinkedIn account for beeper to connect to though.
saadn92 5 hours ago||||
This. That's the only reason I'm on there too. I completely avoid the news feed, but it does help when you having people reaching out and you need jobs.
matsemann 5 hours ago|||
It's a difference between "using it" and just having a dormant profile you wake to live when interested, though.
projektfu 6 hours ago|||
Over time, when I see a login gate on a website, I've gone from "I should join this exclusive site" ca. 2005 to "I guess they don't want me here" currently. If there are others like me, Linked in is a net negative for hiring. I literally have no idea what's on it anymore.
kleiba 5 hours ago||
+1 I haven't made an account on a new website in years, and god forbid I will ever link my gmail with anything other than g-suite.
aenis 4 hours ago|||
Easy. That is the only social media site that is so comically bad, that it does not trigger me in any way with the feed. I am using it as a way to reach out to colleagues from the past - a bit like facebook circa 10 years ago.

I can't stand any of the other social media sites and have deleted accounts there years ago. So, if I need to organize a small reunion with friends from highschool, linkedin is the easiest solution.

neilv 3 hours ago|||
I doubt many people go to LinkedIn for the cringey and obnoxious feed. It's more write-only than anything.

Almost everything about LinkedIn is miserable, not just the feed, and we need a much better competitor that people actually use.

One of the challenges to making it much better will be the same problem that most 'social media' apps/sites have: some of the awful is institutionalized and automated, and will go wherever there is incentive to gain advantage.

(My dating startup is mothballed partly for this reason. Our secret sauce approach to being great, rather than awful, was killed by ChatGPT. Moving forward pretending it wasn't would just turn us into yet another awful, with a flimsy gimmick, that hoped to be bought by the behemoth of awful.)

Those of us who weren't networking in big tech still need to hear from good recruiters, or have some other way to matchmake with the right employers.

A lot of people are thinking, "I know, I'll replace the sourcer/recruiter with AI!" The naive solutions here are just more-automated and more-deceptive versions of the same awful: sourcing via the old standby of random keyword searches and spamming, pushing for call, just wanting the resume to pass on, the employer having low trust in the validity and alignment of the recruiter's recommendations...

neilv 3 hours ago||
And be careful with AI elsewhere in the hiring process.

Recently, a good human recruiter found me an interesting AI startup opportunity. But they were "we're AI-first!" using an AI call scheduling thing instead of Calendly, and it seemed to mess up, so I emailed a quick heads-up about that.

Spent 2 days prepping on their market niche before the call with CTO, and then he no-showed. I got an AI-sounding email from the CTO, after I waited 10 minutes in the call, saying I no-showed, and California-nice offering to reschedule. I replied immediately that I'd been waiting in the call, referenced my earlier heads-up about the AI scheduling, and would continue waiting there in case now was still good. No response...

I wondered whether the CTO wasn't seeing my email due to broken AI managing his inbox, or if he had just blown me off and ghosted after a mess-up on their end that he didn't want to deal with. So I asked the recruiter to make sure employer knew what happened with the AI, and that rescheduling wouldn't just repeat the no-show and ghosting.

No joy after a few days, so I bowed out.

Don't use bad AI; or if you accidentally do, fix the situation when it messes up.

mancerayder 4 hours ago|||
You had me almost spit out my coffee. That's hilariously on point.

My favorite is this:

The LinkedIn Renaissance Man. It reads like this: "Visionary, Recruiter, Climber, Marathon Runner, Co-founder, Author. Father."

That's the sales guys we charge with finding us jobs.

Our past co-workers are all CEOs, CTO's, AI experts, and various flavor of Leonardo da Vinci that surely puts my income and achievements to shame.

pndy 1 hour ago|||
That kind of supposedly successful people who you can find on "normal" platforms as well. The difference is that they wrap everything in this weird language.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/mar/23/corporate-s... & https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47274676 discussion

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01918...

It might be not obvious for those living in English-speaking countries but amount of native words replaced by this corporate jargon is irritating

andyjohnson0 4 hours ago|||
I used it 18 months ago when I was looking for a job, and I found a paid subscription genuinely useful. Before and since: almost never. If I change jobs again then I'll use it again.

At this point I assume that all the "thought leaders" posting garbage are either bots or people too oblivious to understand how dismal the platform is.

Spooky23 6 hours ago|||
It’s a great way to spot phonies if you don’t have a lot of time. If you encounter someone who seems to know things but you’re not sure what or how well, check LinkedIn.

If they are flexing as thought leaders, they are bullshit artists and readily ignored.

jrm4 4 hours ago||
And the converse is true: If you read something with substance, you can know it is VERY important to them; they're likely literally risking their livelihood to do so.
catcowcostume 6 hours ago|||
It's still the main place where recruiter post jobs and look for candidates. That's why.
SV_BubbleTime 4 hours ago||
Do they not also make posts on Indeed or other non-social sites?
dinkleberg 3 hours ago||
The difference is that the recruiters come to you on LinkedIn. This is quite handy when you're currently employed since opportunities come to you that you wouldn't have otherwise looked for.
port3000 7 hours ago|||
It's a social network that became socially acceptable to browse at work. It has all the negative attributes associated with a social network and none of the upsides (apart from the occasional recruiter message).
andrewl-hn 6 hours ago|||
> It's a social network that became socially acceptable to browse at work.

YMMV. I’ve heard a few stories where opened LinkedIn at work was treated as a massive red flag: “this person looks elsewhere, they are not committed to the company anymore”.

freeAgent 5 hours ago|||
It depends on your role. People in sales have it open all the time since it's a legitimate research tool for them.
matwood 5 hours ago||
Yep. Sales and biz dev people use LI constantly not necessarily for connecting, but learning about contacts.
layer8 4 hours ago||||
If you’re considered valuable at your current company, instead of being a red flag it can help you get a raise or other benefits.
torginus 4 hours ago||||
This. I would rather post on any other social media site at work than Linkedin. It's a major signal that the person is looking for work.
siva7 1 hour ago||
Especially the "Let me show you i have a open linkedin tab while screen sharing so you guys know i hate this place" move as if anyone cares.
whatevaa 4 hours ago|||
No more such thing as commit to the company in western world anymore. Companies are definitely not commited to you.
alsetmusic 6 hours ago||||
I've not understood why people wanted it to be a social network. That aspect always seemed bizarre to me until it had been true for long enough to stopped being strange. But this doesn't make sense to me either.

I wouldn't load the site at work because I wouldn't want to signal to my employer that I was looking for another job. I very deliberately didn't accept invites from management at my last employer (small company, ~25 people) until I didn't work there anymore. I wouldn't want them to get a notification if I suddenly revised my profile because maybe I'm shopping around for a new job, for example.

cjbgkagh 6 hours ago|||
Microsoft wanted it to be a social network because they couldn’t buy Facebook. They did buy Yammer though.

A lot of the bad policies were implemented when getting LinkedIn ready for sale to boost the short term gains and maximize the sale price, once sold it was hard to reverse the policies in order to maintain a healthy market long term. They do kinda have a mini-monopoly / cornered market so they were able to milk that for money.

siva7 1 hour ago|||
Yammer was probably one of the most bizarre m&a stories ever.
Spooky23 6 hours ago|||
The same reason there’s probably some dude pitching adding AI to notepad. Fad and fashion.

In the last 20 years “peer to peer”, “Uber for X”, “gamification” and now of course “AI” were the must have tech memes. Back in the day O’Reilly had a conference dedicated to the revolution of… XML.

Social was just another one. Now, even the social companies are kinda moving past social. It’s more about hoarding attention. But when Microsoft was shoveling money at Gartner, we had guys coming in dropping books about how the social enterprise would revolutionize business.

cyanydeez 5 hours ago||
eh, that guy who pitched AI for Notepad was a product of M$lop push for AI everywhere. No one seriously though it needed AI, but if they're trolling for AI pitches, of course that's an easy target, it's already text based. GUI stuff is hard, but raw text?
Spooky23 5 hours ago||
I actually didn’t know that was a thing. I was trying to cook up something quick and absurd. Truth is stranger than fiction!
user_7832 6 hours ago||||
> I wouldn't want them to get a notification if I suddenly revised my profile because maybe I'm shopping around for a new job, for example.

If I'm not mistaken, LinkedIn has options for all of this. You can edit your profile with or without a notification post. You can select "show open to being hired only to people outside your company".

Not that I have great (or any) love for the platform, but if I understood you right, these things aren't really issues.

mancerayder 4 hours ago|||
Is it terrible if your employer finds that you're looking for another job? If they like you, maybe they'll intervene to make your life better?

If they hate you, they're less likely to go through a termination process including severance.

I used to always worry about them finding out. Now, I'm having trouble not blurting it out from the rooftops.

monsieurbanana 6 hours ago|||
I work remotely so I had no idea. I'd have thought that unless you're in HR you wouldn't scroll a website whose primary purpose is to look for new jobs.
mwexler 4 hours ago|||
Much like X, it's what you choose to use it for. Papers are posted, approaches are debated, and loose groups form to align. It's easy to scroll past the pandering, but there is useful stuff in the dross.

But agreed, it is getting harder and harder to dig to the gems.

edgyquant 4 hours ago|||
That is not the primary purpose of LinkedIn though. It is used extensively by a class of people who are generally decision makers and those selling services to them.
richardstahl 5 hours ago|||
This is a good opportunity to link to Cringebot 3000 which helps you scale your presence on LinkedIn.

https://www.cringebot3000.com/

yread 3 hours ago|||
I work in research and people post their papers there. Signal to noise ratio is getting worse and worse though.. My "favorite" was probably an AI generated post (3 em dashes in one sentence, its not this.its that. And so son) about how bad AI is and how it hallucinates.
jonhohle 3 hours ago||
“This wasn’t just AI generated — it was a paragon of hallucinated AI slop.”
trash_cat 2 hours ago|||
Sales people using it a lot to scout prospects and understand a person's seniority in an organisation, to target better and prepare a strategy to pitch higher up the chain.
xioxox 3 hours ago|||
A surprising number of scientists seem to use it, likely because of the now terrible atmosphere for scientists on Twitter/X and the emptiness of bluesky.
MengerSponge 2 hours ago||
Bluesky doesn't push an algorithmic feed, so it looks empty if you aren't following people who are posting.

FWIW starter kits and topical feeds are a great way to jumpstart your algorithm.

pjmlp 4 hours ago|||
Because after Stackoverflow Jobs went bust, LinkedIn and Xing (in DACH space), are the best ways to reach out to head hunters.

All those Indeed, Stepstone,... feel much worse.

le-mark 3 hours ago||
I will never understand why SO did not lean into its jobs feature. I got two jobs from it, I thought it was great.
com2kid 2 hours ago|||
There are some really funny people who run parody accounts, or who are retired and just don't care. They publish some hilarious posts. If you follow a few of them LI becomes worth visiting!
dagmx 4 hours ago|||
As a hiring manager, it’s still the best place to try and find people for a given role.

Especially when it comes to somewhat more specific skills like graphics development.

subscribed 6 hours ago|||
Recruiters keep reaching out. I didn't have to seek a new job in perhaps last 15 years, all I had to do was to flip "looking for opportunities" on and start sorting out the messages and emails.

This works.

nottorp 3 hours ago|||
> Out of all places to doomscroll

Doomscrolling is on you, other people use the resume and jobs parts?

jadbox 7 hours ago|||
I think it depends on who you follow/connected with. I only follow people that are prone to write their own posts, and I feel Linkedin is less filled with AI crap as mass public platforms like X.
paoliniluis 6 hours ago||
LinkedIn feed now brings dumb posts from AI bots that contacts follow. All social networks tend to follow the same principles now: bring to everyone’s feed what’s most engaging, which is normally clickbaits or posts that use exaggerated words
inaros 6 hours ago|||
I always saw LinkedIn, as nothing more than the best dating site in the world. My results so far have been stellar.
tartoran 23 minutes ago||
Wait, are you dating on LinkedIn?
faramarz 2 hours ago|||
its a professional contact list is all it is, for me anyway. its where I go to gather intel on a person/company or where I go to lookup a contact for an outreac
anonu 4 hours ago|||
Many people use it.

But let’s be honest…

it’s not just a social media platform.

It’s a mindset. A daily ritual. A lifestyle. A place where every thought becomes a “lesson”

...

Contributors can lay out their every boring thought in strange staccato posts.

Every now and then there are genuinely interesting things happening in your industry you can learn about.

But you have to suffer through the fake team building and work family dribble.

jhickok 3 hours ago||
"My father died from cancer, and this is what it taught me about B2B SaaS sales..."
eitally 7 hours ago|||
It's legitimately useful for networking, and also for keeping track of professional events.

On the other side of the equation, it's also useful for sales teams using LI Sales Navigator as a lead enrichment platform.

This doesn't excuse any of the numerous dark patterns in the app, or the memory consumption.

wombat-man 6 hours ago|||
I still use it to reach out to old colleagues or see what they're up to these days.
xeromal 2 hours ago|||
I've gotten two very good jobs from linkedin.
nacozarina 4 hours ago|||
it’s deteriorated to the point where shit-posting is becoming normalized, so it has that going for it
riffraff 5 hours ago|||
I use it sometimes to message ex colleagues e.g. I'm traveling to City X and I want to arrange a coffee with them but I don't have their email or phone number anymore.

I see some people sharing info I care to reshare (we're hiring X/I'm looking for job X) and a ton of the same slop ("I went to pick up my kids. I realize this is the real breakthrough of agentic development. Let me explain.").

I genuinely can't understand why people write that crap, and who is their target audience.

quinndupont 6 hours ago|||
Desperate job seekers. Nobody wants LinkedIn.
DaSHacka 5 hours ago||
"No one goes there, it's too crowded" type energy
xantronix 5 hours ago|||
The greatest value I see in LinkedIn is that it's one of the best places you can have PvP encounters with delusional C-suites making ridiculous claims in a world economy-defining hype bubble. Do I particularly think I am doing anything to change their minds? No, but I figure if enough people saw, at least some class consciousness could be built enough to resist some of their most inane excesses.
mancerayder 3 hours ago||
That's the first I've heard of LinkedIn-driven revolutionary endeavors towards social change. I think that's the point we've all reached given all else has failed.
MegaDeKay 6 hours ago|||
A lot of people have answered that it is a useful tool for job searching. My experience was a bit on the other side of the coin. Our company wanted more of a presence on the site to gain visibility so managers like myself were encourged (told) to sign up and post on it. We also received video training on how to write catchy descriptions of ourselves (under 50 words ofc) and stuff like that.

The site is just a circle jerk. I hate it.

justin66 3 hours ago||
From the online job searcher's point of view, it's one of the least awful circle jerks in a Dante's Inferno-esque series of circle jerks. It is only the first or second circle jerk, at worst.
DeathArrow 6 hours ago|||
Yes, it's low quality but you can find employment, you can establish some industry connections and you can find the right people to hire if you need to.

Most people on LinkedIn do not waste their time there, they visit when they need to.

tyleo 3 hours ago|||
I use LinkedIn. I’ve posted some blog posts on both Hacker News and LinkedIn and determined that LinkedIn is a bit more evergreen. A post on the HN front page gets thousands or tens of thousands of views in a day but a LinkedIn post has thousands in the long tail.

I think a lot of accounts are playing the algorithm and have AI generate a post every week. I just ignore those. Most of my posts are one sentence followed by a link to a blog.

Truthfully, I think it’s easy to rise above the slop since so much of it talks about the same stuff in the same format.

dainank 5 hours ago|||
In my experience, I am only connected with people I have worked with at some point, while taking the effort to mark posts as 'not interested' whenever it felt like ai-crap or boring enterprise slop. The few times I now browse the site, I see the odd interesting article that a college has liked and I barely ever see the pathetic stuff. The experience is fine haha. I think the algorithm just alters to what kind of person you are, thus in my case, the app mainly recommends similar things to what I find here on HackerNews.
markus_zhang 4 hours ago|||
The articles are mostly BS, but I got all of my previous jobs from LinkedIn, except for the first one. Which else should I use? I guess networking is better, but I'm not really a networking type of person. LinkedIn at least shows me which companies have openings so I can network with the hiring managers. Those openings could be fake, but hey at least there is some data.
phendrenad2 2 hours ago|||
> what taking my kids to school taught me about business scaling

The brief period where LinkedIn didn't ban you for joke posts was glorious:

https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/wtf/man-shares-fake-stor...

surgical_fire 2 hours ago|||
I keep an up-to-date profile so recruiters reach out.

It's useless otherwise.

rirze 3 hours ago|||
It's great for niche fields or small credentialed network groups. The social media side is complete nonsense, don't use it.

I mostly check it to follow up on recruiting messages.

franktankbank 4 hours ago|||
Yea, I quit recently, got absolutely nothing positive out.
Henchman21 4 hours ago|||
It feels important to remember that all the Severed employees were there by choice. Perhaps not the choice of the innie, but hey someone made that choice for their reasons.
itsthecourier 6 hours ago|||
to investigate people of interest
mft_ 7 hours ago|||
I agree. I hate it with a passion and usually regret loading the page within about 10s of doing so.

But it’s the default for recruiters, and it’s thus unavoidable to support necessary communication with them.

I’ve been thinking recently it’s surprising that they never carved off a communication and calendar/meeting function – ideally in a separate app. But this would probably hit some product manager’s metrics, and LinkedIn is so far down the enshittification hole, it’s also understandable that they didn’t.

reactordev 7 hours ago||
You have to look at who owns LinkedIn and why building a meetings and calendar was not “part of the plan”
mft_ 5 hours ago||
On the one hand, yes - and (to be reductive) enshittification is basically making decisions according to incentives that aren't aligned with your users, so it fits.

On the other hand, MS have Outlook email/calendar and Teams for video calling - so it could have been an opportunity to benefit different parts of their broader ecosystem. You could also build in limited access to Word for CV creation/editing (with Copilot support, of course) - and then bundle it and charge users for features, and charge recruiters even more for a 'premium' offering.

reactordev 5 hours ago||
Except those two divisions were at others ends of the hall, in between was the gauntlet of enterprise deference, with obstacles such as Service Now approvals and meetings about meetings about how to have good meetings… it’s an MBA’s wet dream.
mft_ 4 hours ago||
I think we're basically in violent agreement. MS sucks, big organisations often suck, misaligned incentives everywhere, etc.
legitster 2 hours ago|||
LinkedIn has the most clear para-social relationship. Post and interact to look good for recruiters and future employers.

Sprinkle in a few business sociopaths and various opportunist "influencers" and you have a semi-self sustaining feed.

jmye 6 hours ago|||
I was going to respond, because of course the site has value if that’s where my network is and that’s where everyone posts jobs. But I don’t think that’s what you’re asking.

I frankly have no idea who uses the social media aspects of the site. Some of the “career coaching” groups suggest posting constantly because it ups your visibility to recruiters, but thats only the content generation part. I’d guess some recruiters follow it?

But even with careful curation of my feed, I have no idea who’s spending more than 30 seconds seeing “oh, John/Jane got a new job, cool” and then logging off.

Maybe it’s people stuck trying to find work who think there might, somewhere in the noise, be some useful, additive signal?

cosmodisk 5 hours ago|||
I've been using LinkedIn for years. I'm one of those cynics who loath all those "inspirational" and "leadership" posts, but there's more than that. I've met some people who tremendously boosted my career. I've met people who later became friends and our kids play together. I did meet a lot of incredible people in various jobs who I wouldn't have met otherwise(e.g. CEOs of very large companies- I'm just not in those circles to meet people in such positions). I'm often involved in interesting and challenging discussions on various technical and other topics.

The main point is that everyone can use it in a way they want to.It's perfectly fine to become some influencer if that's what one wants. It's equally fine to have 45 connections with people who are really good in what they do and perhaps exchange 5 messages a year. It's massive platform, so it's inevitable that there will be lots of crap out there,as in any other large forum without very strong moderation.

psalaun 6 hours ago|||
I use LinkedIn as a forum; I only follow, comment and react to economics, society, ecology related posts (and therefore I only follow people posting these opinions). It's the closest we have from an Agora: I can debate with people I won't ever meet in my real life circles, and I discuss (disagree) politely with them because I'm CTO of a company and I can't publicly appear like a troll or douchebag. I unfollow or ignore every people sharing or creating the typical LI posts with one sentence per line and an emoji instead of ponctuation, they are the NPCs to me.

The fun thing is the career related part of LinkedIn is just a collateral for the real intrinsic value of the platform: you have no interest in being anonymous like X or FB, therefore you have to act professionally. It's interesting to note that trolls are often retired people or professionals high enough on the social ladder they don't care anymore for looking stupid on internet.

This social network is in fact some kind of speakeasy!

hatmanstack 5 hours ago||
The feed actually surfaced people working on open source projects adjacent to mine, that turned into real collaboration and shaped technical decisions I wouldn't have arrived at alone. It's not all good content, but it's a useful signal source for things outside your usual field of view.
phendrenad2 2 hours ago||
There's a long tail of users who still visit out of habit. The last useful thing there was job listings, but between LinkedIn doing nothing to combat bots clicking apply on every job, the "fake job listings" phenomenon, and the job market being atrocious, you're better off playing the lottery.

So, failing social media platform, full of bots, when is Elon Buying it?

alyandon 3 hours ago||
Back in the ancient days of the web, browsers allowed you to set resource limits (ram, cache, etc) to prevent websites from hogging the limited resources of your desktop system.

It's really a shame that all major browsers have since decided that you as a user should have almost no control over how much ram and storage any arbitrary website can consume now.

dijit 2 hours ago||
Goes with the territory of allowing remote code execution arbitrarily and all the time otherwise you won't be able to..

* checks notes *

read text on the internet.

noitpmeder 7 hours ago||
The fact that they hijack scrolling to artificially limit scroll speed is insane to me. Feels like I'm trying to navigate through molasses
koinedad 24 minutes ago||
The scroll jacking drives me nuts
kjkjadksj 2 hours ago|||
Scroll down through jobs, hit next page. Page reloads at bottom of list on next page. Have to scroll up then scroll down, every page.

Baffles me ui like this exists in 2026.

hrmtst93837 1 hour ago|||
Scroll hijacking like that feels like product brain rot. You can see the trade in plain sight they slow the user down so feed metrics look better, and the side effect is that keyboard nav, accessibility tools, and UI automation all get wierd in ways the people shipping it probably never have to touch.

Older laptops already choke on LinkedIn. Adding fake drag on top of a heavy page is like putting a speed bump in front of a stalled car.

lpcvoid 7 hours ago||
Imagine the MBA that had this idea. This is peak, distilled Microslop engineering right there.
thunky 6 hours ago|||
It's the user's fault. They vote for this crap with their attention. Junk sites like this shouldn't exist but they do amd aren't going anywhere until people stop using them.
kalaksi 6 hours ago|||
Some users might enable these kind of features with their attention, but I don't think users actually want these features and any kind of "voting" is likely unintentional. It's manipulation. The fault lies mainly with the company and their carefully planned dark patterns. Ideally, users should punish them by e.g. leaving the platform but there's friction that may be a bigger problem than the dark patterns (depending on user). And I don't think there are any platforms that always guarantee good user experience now and in the future.

Not sure if users even realize what the dark patterns are and do. Users aren't all-knowing, with endless time, carefully balancing their attention to try to provide markets with the optimal signal to wisely guide the misbehaving actors.

shimman 2 hours ago||||
Is it really the users fault when the apps are literally designed by neuroscientists that explicitly design it to be addictive toward humans all of which is being funded by monopolists companies whose leadership tend to have antidemocratic views about humanity?

Maybe we should finally regulate these addict boxes as the dangerous substances they are.

philistine 3 hours ago|||
Users are not perfect agents. How can you expect the average non-technical person to figure out what is happening? For most people, if they don't see visually see something happening on the screen, it doesn't exist. They simply have no frame of reference to figure out that LinkedIN is hijacking their scroll speed.
baal80spam 5 hours ago|||
Nah, it's just bad engineering, period. I "like" aljazeera too - they hijack your freaking PageDn and PageUp keys.
eclipticplane 5 hours ago||
I wonder how much of that is from Linkedin checking what browser extensions you have, probably desperately trying to prevent screen scraping?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46904361

Aurornis 3 hours ago|
That code is minimal. It’s definitely not the source.

Given all the sales and recruiting spam I get, I think it’s a good thing that LinkedIn is making efforts to detect people using garbage plugins that scrape data and send it to their servers or prepare it for mass spamming.

SilasX 3 hours ago||
Really? Then why else do adblockers seem to take up so much memory, other than an arms race with countermeasures that sites take?
namegulf 26 minutes ago||
We're back in the IE era (now with chrome and other browsers) where websites are bloated with ton of js, css, websockets, background services hogging memory.

May be its time for browser vendors to show the consumption (right now they show memory usage) by features i.e background service, websockets, etc.,

With option to disable background service workers.

astrospective 4 hours ago|
I keep my profile updated as a consultant because it lets clients and others in my company get a fuller gauge than my one pager. I’ve also got my most recent and prior job from having a price and responding to the right recruiter, I’ve also had a handful of interviews as well, which is honestly more than I’ve gotten from trying to apply to random job board postings.
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