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Posted by tobr 3 days ago

JSON Canvas Spec(jsoncanvas.org)
43 points | 11 comments
bryanrasmussen 1 hour ago||
It would be useful to have examples of data and the representation this would result in.

Although you can go to https://jsoncanvas.org/ itself and see an example rendering, you cannot see the exact data that created it - I think, although you can sort of guess since the element names are stuff like node.

I sort of doubt this is the best data structure for representing this kind of thing. Maybe I'm wrong though but I would think I would go for something like https://github.com/jsongraph/json-graph-specification which strikes me as closer to graphml which I have some experience with, and maybe give it ability to embed videos etc. (which for all I know someone already has)

This is all an initial feeling though, like hmm, no I think it's wrong, and maybe I am just not seeing why this would be better than another solution.

kepano 1 hour ago|
You can see the data it created. Just click "Toggle output" in the bottom right corner.
bryanrasmussen 29 minutes ago||
ah ok, sorry about that. I didn't really look at that part of the UI much, noticed it had some zoom stuff, noticed I couldn't zoom normally and scroll to where I wanted to read, was somewhat miffed.
whycombinetor 7 minutes ago||
Previously posted in 2022 as Obsidian Canvas before being open sourced in 2024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34066824
obsidianbases1 10 minutes ago||
I've used canvas quite a bit since it was release in Obsidian. It's good, not great, but the simplicity of the file type opens up a lot of opportunities to build on top of it.
Garlef 21 minutes ago||
I'm not sure about this:

An "infinite" canvas without some notion of recursion such as viewports feels incomplete.

kepano 3 minutes ago|
A file node can be a .canvas, so a .canvas can have nested canvases.

Obsidian's implementation of JSON Canvas supports this.

makeitrain 1 hour ago||
Looks cool. I recently hit some limits with mermaid and this seems a little more flexible.
MoonWalk 1 hour ago|
Are pixels really the best way to encode position at this point?
9wzYQbTYsAIc 4 minutes ago||
I’m playing with 3d positions derived from higher dimensions, right now.
Garlef 33 minutes ago||
Agreed.

The upside is that it does not leave the most important aspect open to interpretation.

But it prevents this from being text-only at the point of creation:

You'll most likely need some programmatic environment to create non-trivial diagrams.

But then the question is: Why not just an SVG instead?