Top
Best
New

Posted by gpi 4 days ago

How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?(teybannerman.com)
808 points | 385 commentspage 2
uda 3 days ago|
It's a corporate practice they find hard to shake, and sadly enough, it seems to work.

The idea is about platform solutions vs. best of breed, and they keep betting on the platform. In big organizations with lengthy and complex contracting procedures, platform solutions will always win.

The actual solution for the economy is Interoperability, if we fight for governments to require it, we can get platform providers that allow best of breed bundles. We will gain open market platforms, where you choose the market platform that works for you with the combination of solutions that work for you with one or just few contracts. Markets that close themselves or fight their vendors will lose both vendors and customers.

TradingPlaces 4 days ago||
For a moment it was called Microsoft Copilot for Microsoft 365. Naming things is hard.
harvey9 4 days ago||
Reminds me of Microsoft OneCare which sounds like saying 'wanker' with a slight French accent
lucb1e 4 days ago||
Claude sounds like bollocks in Dutch ('kloot')

Pretty sure bollocks was the literal example I read on HN like 10 years ago of what your cool-sounding product name will turn out to mean in Spanish, but I can't remember if the moral of the story was to check every language or to just accept it because it'll happen anyway

Anyway, the various tech podcasts caught on after a few episodes and seem to now pronounce it more foreignly, so it's now more like clod

Joeri 4 days ago|||
The name that still takes the cake is Github Advanced Security for Azure DevOps.
direwolf20 4 days ago|||
Now 365 is also called Copilot, so it's Microsoft Copilot for Microsoft Copilot
chrisjj 4 days ago||
> Naming things is hard

... for people really bad at it.

tanseydavid 4 days ago||
"I'm Daryl. These are my 608 other brothers named Daryl"
firefoxd 4 days ago||
Just this last week, I wrote about the confusion this creates in the workplace[0]. My coworker said "copilot" literally referring to any code assistant, the same way we say bandaid or kleenex. I thought he was talking about Copilot, the one I see nagging me on Microsoft teams. We had a full discussion about completely different tools without realizing it.

[0]: https://idiallo.com/blog/what-is-copilot-exactly

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47603231

morkalork 4 days ago|
What's fun is getting into the co-pilot comparison conversational because they are definitely not all equal. Co-pilot 365 is a donkey for one
eterm 4 days ago||
I refuse to believe any are as bad as the Azure Portal one.

It feels like pre-GPT levels of smart.

nlawalker 4 days ago||
I actually was just thinking about doing something very similar for this but for "agent," specifically in the Microsoft ecosystem. There are a zillion different proper nouns (products, services, frameworks, toolkits and tools, SDKs etc.) containing "agent" now, plus a bunch of other things that are now "agentic".
smelendez 4 days ago|
A ton of companies use agent/agentic to mean AI that does something with external effects, as opposed to a chatbot. I’m not sure if it’s overused per se or companies are just really pushing their AI features in general.
georgeburdell 4 days ago||
Reminds me of the 2010s when IBM called everything Watson
billforsternz 4 days ago||
I remember Joel of Joel on Software publicly working through the process of creating a remote desktop for normals type product called Copilot back in the day. If I remember correctly he had to pay quite a pretty penny to acquire copilot.com.

I wonder if MS Copilot meant he made money on that investment?

gwf 4 days ago||
It's the new .NET in that it been so overused as to become almost meaningless.
layer8 4 days ago|
It means “the AI thing we bolted on here”.
ieie3366 4 days ago||
Crazy how copilot was a great brand, and might even have been the first mass market LLM product (2022-2023 code autocomplete) but they completely ensloppified it
JumpCrisscross 4 days ago||
> Crazy how copilot was a great brand, and might even have been the first mass market LLM product

Cortana was a great brand. Clippy is still on the shelf. Copilot could have been a deep brand if they pulled it from their flight simulators. Instead it rings hollow of any meaning.

ValentineC 4 days ago|||
We definitely could have stuck with Cortana for a consumer-facing personal assistant. The first few Halo games were great.
twobitshifter 4 days ago|||
Right, they had Cortana right there for the built in windows function!
hocuspocus 4 days ago|||
I think it's fine. GitHub Copilot is popular as ever, especially in companies that have enterprise tier subscriptions. Plans for personal use pretty good too, pricing is competitive. The VS Code integration and agentic features aren't bad either.

Developer tools live in their own space. And I assume most devs don't really care that "Copilot" started to show up everywhere, especially in MS365 products. At least I don't. Conversely, do non-technical people care where the term comes from, and now means "LLM integration" in a bunch of MS products?

I think it's better that Google going through Bard, Gemini, IDX, Firebase Studio, Antigravity, ...

yunnpp 4 days ago||
[flagged]
moezd 4 days ago||
That's the point: If you receive a bug report about "Copilot" and it will take you forever to triage what's actually broken, then the ticket gets closed because it becomes stale eventually. Therefore you don't have a complaint anymore!
2OEH8eoCRo0 4 days ago|
It sucks they got rid of Cortana. The thought of being Master Chief with a Cortana of your own sounds badass.
More comments...