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Posted by janandonly 1 day ago

Gemma 4 on iPhone(apps.apple.com)
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orf 10 hours ago|
I’d recommend locally.ai[1] - it’s really good and has a wide range of models. Also has shortcuts support.

1. https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/locally-ai-local-ai-chat/id674...

janandonly 9 hours ago|
Thanks for the link. Gemma 4 also works in this app.
dhbradshaw 22 hours ago||
My son just started using 2B on his Android. I mentioned that it was an impressively compact model and next thing I knew he had figured out how to use it on his inexpensive 2024 Motorolla and was using it to practice reading and writing in foreign languages.
allpratik 23 hours ago||
Nice! Tried on iPhone 16 pro with 30 TPS from Gemma-4-E2B-it model.

Although the phone got considerably hot while inferencing. It’s quite an impressive performance and cannot wait to try it myself in one of my personal apps.

golem14 19 hours ago||
It's at least somewhat limited in non-English content. It knows how to make lentil soup, so I was happy that I never need to look up recipe sites with awful UX and ads, but then it couldn't find a recipe for "Kalter Hund"/"Kalte Schnauze". So sad ;)

Still, absolutely fabulous. What a time to be alive!

mudkipdev 14 hours ago||
It's strange that my iPhone 14 is at regular temperature when using the E2B model. But also it's a lot slower (not sure how to measure the exact tokens per second, ~12 if I had to guess)
TGower 1 day ago||
These new models are very impressive. There should be a massive speedup coming as well, AI Edge Gallery is running on GPU, but NPUs in recent high end processors should be much faster. A16 chip for example (Macbook Neo and iphone 16 series) has 35 TOPS of Neural Engine vs 7 TFLOPS gpu. Similar story for Qualcomm.
api 1 day ago|
That’s nuts actually for such a low power chip. Can’t wait to see the M series version of that.

I’m sure very fast TPUs in desktops and phones are coming.

zozbot234 1 day ago||
The Apple Silicon in the MacBook Neo is effectively a slimmed down version of M4, which is already out and has a very similar NPU (similar TFLOPS rating). It's worth noting however that the TFLOPS rating for Apple Neural Engine is somewhat artificial, since e.g. the "38 TFLOPS" in the M4 ANE are really 19 TFLOPS for FP16-only operation.
haizhung 7 hours ago||
I encourage everybody to try this, if they have an iPhone. If you’re like me and don’t have the time to tinker with the latest and greatest all the time; this app lowers the barrier to entry significantly and provides a glimpse into what’s possible locally, on device.

Honestly, I was extremely impressed by the speed and quality of the answers considering this thing runs on a phone. It honestly makes me want to sit down and spin up my own homegrown AI setup to go fully independent. Crazy.

two_handfuls 19 hours ago||
The description says it's private, but the legalese it makes you agree to makes no promise. Rather, the opposite:

> We collect information about your activity in our services

Source: https://policies.google.com/privacy#infocollect

mjlee 10 hours ago||
I was about to ask if anybody had looked at what it was sending home. I’m travelling so I’m not in a position to run this through a proxy for a couple of weeks, but also I’m travelling so this could be useful!
bigyabai 18 hours ago||
The app is open source[0], although given Apple's stance on sideloading it's hard to confirm if you're using the open version.

[0] https://github.com/google-ai-edge/gallery

selfsigned 10 hours ago|||
Two (very quick) minutes on their GitHub repo and it's pretty obvious that they're using firebase-analytics and at the very least seem to be sending URLs[1] and infos such as the model you download or the capacities[2] you use.

[1] https://github.com/google-ai-edge/gallery/blob/main/Android/...

[2] https://github.com/google-ai-edge/gallery/blob/main/Android/...

kaliqt 5 hours ago||
That’s not the same app as posted which is for iOS.
selfsigned 1 hour ago||
You're right, they reference IOS in the README.md and link to the GitHub repo from the Apple Store page yet don't include the IOS source, sneaky.
kaliqt 5 hours ago|||
That is the Android repo, where is the iOS repo?
_nagu_ 11 hours ago||
If this works smoothly on iPhone, it could change how we think about mobile apps. Less backend dependency, more on-device intelligence.
jcutrell 7 hours ago|
This is what Apple promised a long time ago, and just couldn't quite connect on delivery.
deckar01 1 day ago||
It doesn’t render Markdown or LaTeX. The scrolling is unusable during generation. E4B failed to correctly account for convection and conduction when reasoning about the effects of thermal radiation (31b was very good). After 3 questions in a session (with thinking) E4B went off the rails and started emitting nonsense fragment before the stated token limit was hit (unless it isn’t actually checking).
3abiton 3 hours ago|
They have very limited capabilities compared to bigger more complex models, but for general stuff, they are fantastic. We need to set the expectations correctly of what they can do, I know lots of hype around Gemma 4, even though Qwen3.5 outperformed it. It's just a reliable overall small model, with great small model abilities.
hadrien01 1 day ago||
Is it me or does the App Store website look... fake? The text in the header ("Productiviteit", "Alleen voor iPhone") looks pixelated, like it was edited on Paint, the header background is flickering, the app icon and screenshots are very low quality, the title of the website is incomplete ("App Store voor iPho...")
lateforwork 23 hours ago||
Here's the US version of the same page: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/google-ai-edge-gallery/id67496...

The design quality is still poor. But that's the new Apple. Design is no longer one of their core strengths.

giarc 1 day ago|||
It's the dutch version, see /nl/ in the url.

If you just go to https://apps.apple.com/ it does look better, but I agree, still a bit "off".

throwatdem12311 1 day ago|||
Issues caused by a low effort localization?

On my iPhone it opens on the App Store app, so it looks fine to me.

piperswe 1 day ago|||
What browser are you using? I don't see any of this behavior on Firefox...
hadrien01 1 day ago|||
Firefox on Windows, but it looks about the same in Edge

Screenshot of the header: https://i.imgur.com/4abfGYF.png

morpheuskafka 1 day ago|||
It looks like there is some sort of glow effect on the text that isn't rendering right on your browser? It arguably doesn't have the best contrast, but seems to be as intended in Safari 26.3. Looks similar on Chrome macOS too: https://imgur.com/yq5PrKm.
t-sauer 1 day ago|||
Renders equally weird for me on Firefox on Windows 11. Firefox on MacOS looks good though.

Edit: Seems like mix-blend-mode: plus-lighter is bugged in Firefox on Windows https://jsfiddle.net/bjg24hk9/

OJFord 22 hours ago|||
Firefox on Android: 'Google AI' (in app name) is clipped off the top; the Apple 'share' button is clipped on the bottom.
j0hax 1 day ago|||
Everything renders crystal clear with Firefox on GrapheneOS.
ezfe 1 day ago||
Nothing weird on my side
sshrajesh 4 hours ago|
> Note: I tried to hook this one up to OpenClaw and ran into issues

Anyone worked on hooking up OpenClaw to gemma4 running locally?

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