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Posted by playfultones 20 hours ago

Help Keep Thunderbird Alive(updates.thunderbird.net)
519 points | 359 commentspage 6
cutler 17 hours ago|
I used TB happily for years on Mac OS but its font rendering on Linux was one of the main reasons I never switched.
eu 16 hours ago||
when i used windows i was happy with The Bat email client: https://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/download.php
seanalltogether 13 hours ago||
I wish I could donate without entering an email address.
brachkow 10 hours ago||
My usual reminder that actually Mozilla has a lot of money (mostly from Google), and, for example, donates six figure numbers to random political organizations not related to browsers and internet (not EFF)

Here is a breakdown, which was posted on HN few years ago – https://lunduke.locals.com/post/4387539/firefox-money-invest...

NoImmatureAdHom 10 hours ago||
I'm gonna say it: we need to build a Thunderbird replacement. It's got too much technical debt. It can't convert new users. We need something that does.
sergolala 17 hours ago||
Made an account just to say that I will not support the bloated mess that is Thunderbird that pushes on you a new way to configure it, a new layout and new workflows with every major update, makes it difficult to set up text-only mail and messes up line breaks every so often with no way to properly configure it, which should be developed by Mozilla, which is flush with money but rather spends it on theming their software and executive salaries.

I switched away from Thunderbird about a year ago and couldn't be happier I have made the change.

daneel_w 10 hours ago||
I sadly have to agree. The damned thing struggles with a handful of basic stuff, it still has a config UI of which you can't tell head from tail, complete with teeth and whiskers and even a full "about:config" panel à la Firefox hidden underneath. Spell checker. Calendar. Chat client. Complete web-browser internals, with grindy disk-caching. To add insult to injury, the macOS bundle is half a fxxxing GiB in size (universal flavor, but still).
ThePowerOfFuet 17 hours ago|||
What do you use now?
Gud 14 hours ago|||
This is downvoted but needs to be said. Thunderbird was an amazing 90's style piece of software that has unfortunately been been changed into a more "modern" look, with excessive white space and power-user hostile work flows.

It was near perfect, just needed better search, pretty much.

ciupicri 9 hours ago|||
I liked the old style, too. Nevertheless there is View → Density → Compact / Default / Relaxed.
antisol 12 hours ago||||
Exactly. It used to be good and they're making it worse every day.
SV_BubbleTime 12 hours ago|||
“90s style” seems to be a compliment in some posts and a negative in others.

Very likely user’s age perspective.

It’s absolutely correct though.

registeredcorn 12 hours ago||
What did you switch to?
Glandalf 9 hours ago||
Mozilla gets like 500 trillion a year from Google, no, I will not give money.
bravetraveler 17 hours ago||
Anyone using Thunderbird was forced to see this, not sure we (or the well-funded corp) need another round.
account42 14 hours ago|
Yes, which has ensured I never donate to them again. It's my computer not MZLA's billboard.
bravetraveler 10 hours ago||
I hate to say it, but the Outlook approach would be an improvement: cute little ~~advertisements~~ calls to action in your inbox.

The full-display-on-focus thing certainly got my interest.

isaachinman 17 hours ago||
Sorry, isn't Thunderbird meant to be "true FOSS" and essentially feature complete?
jeltz 11 hours ago|
No? It is the best email client of the market but it is far from feature complete.
isaachinman 4 hours ago||
What features do you think it lacks? I'm not talking about AI slop. Surely it's IMAP feature complete.
shaky-carrousel 17 hours ago|
By donating to MZLA Technologies Corporation? Then I guess I'll switch to KMail or Evolution.
nosioptar 12 hours ago||
Seamonkey or claws mifht be good alternatives too.

http://seamonkey-project.org/

https://claws-mail.org/

0x000042 17 hours ago||
How is KMail and Evolution at this point? I have not tried them in like 10 years. Are they actively maintained and a real alternative for serious email use?
teekert 17 hours ago||
Both are ok last time I tried (last year?) but Geary is default on Gnome distro's now I think [0]. Geary is much more minimal though.

I myself am pretty spoiled by Protonmail I think, really enjoying that.

[0] https://github.com/GNOME/geary

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