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Posted by _Microft 1 day ago

DIY Soft Drinks(blinry.org)
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nchmy 1 day ago|
I bottled 20 litres of kombucha yesterday with ginger and lemongrass. It'll be very fizzy and ready to drink in 3-5 days. Costs next to nothing and quite healthy - water, black tea, sugar, (gifted and self-reproducing) scoby. The flavourings are what costs most, depending on what you use.
juvvel 9 hours ago||
Kombucha is the best "natural" soft drink for me, too. It's not entirely sugar-free, though (even though you can get it to low-sugar with longer fermentation).
nchmy 9 hours ago||
I'm not concerned with sugar-free. I drink maybe 500ml per day, and otherwise consume ZERO added sugar. And It's surely a small fraction of the sugar in soda, fruit juices etc... I also like it sour/highly fermented
hattmall 17 hours ago|||
what did you bottle it in?
nchmy 17 hours ago||
Bottles?
hattmall 6 hours ago||
Looking for specific bottle recommendations and suppliers
jamiek88 21 hours ago||
Oooh that sounds good! I’ve been meaning to add fermented stuff to my diet.
psalaun 18 hours ago|||
Maybe try water kefir first then. I've got mine for 5 years now at least, making 2 bottles every couple of weeks or so.

Kefir is easier and quicker to make than kombucha, there is no caffeine and maybe less sugar. Probably the best intro to fermented drinks!

Scoundreller 19 hours ago|||
me too, thinking of buying fruit juices and yeasts. These taxes are killing me.
jackdawed 23 hours ago||
I went down this rabbit hole last year after buying a carbonator. Rather than mixing a bunch of oils together, I bought my flavors from Bakto Flavors (based in NJ, USA) which is founded by Dr. Daphna Havkin Frenkel who did her research in food sciences and biotechnology, focusing on vanilla. The cola flavor is really good, and I add acetic acid (Vitamin C) + electrolytes to it. If I'm feeling it, I'll add in vanilla, cherry, or lime flavors to it.

Sad to hear she passed away recently this month.

Highly recommend Bakto's natural flavors.

Scoundreller 19 hours ago||
> acetic acid (Vitamin C)

ascorbic acid!

userbinator 19 hours ago||
Acetic acid is vinegar. Not something I'd like to taste in any soft drink.
riffraff 17 hours ago|||
I don't like vinegar much either, but vinegar in drinks does have a certain tradition e.g.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posca

tdeck 16 hours ago||
Or more recently Switchel, which was popular in 19th century America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchel

I think the ready availability or citrus fruits caused their decline.

williape 7 hours ago||||
Soadly is getting popular in Australia as an alternative to sugar / artificial sweeteners soadas. Most use vinegar: https://www.remedydrinks.com/collections/sodaly
DonHopkins 12 hours ago|||
I'm hoping Irn-Bru will come out with Fish-n-Chips Soda with a strong vinegar finish!

In the mean time, does anyone know the formula for traditional Irn-Bru? How do you get the girders to dissolve into the syrup?

RARE Irn-Bru Advertising Poster/Calendar 1992 Demand Going to be Wee Bit Heavier

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/374619031624

Irn Bru - "Made in Scotland from Girders" - Drilled Hole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoVfy_q9IFc

Irn Bru Advert - "Made in Scotland from Girders" - Steam Roller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD3LippIN40

Irn Bru Advert: Shipyard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBjYfe-QIBg

IRN-BRU Snowman Advert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZOab5gl-4

IRN-BRU Snowman - The Sequel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8WBStu4STY

ROYALS: The Queen and Prince William visit the Irn-Bru factory | 5 News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU-0n1m-2OE

At 1:08 they hold up a precious bottle of pure secret Irn-Bru Essence. How can I get me some of that?

BizarroLand 2 hours ago||
Are there any reasonably priced water carbonation systems that aren't sodastream adjacent?

I know there are hacks for the older sodastreams where you can buy a large tank from a foodgas company, but what I really want is a machine in my house that I can bring a cup to and fill with soda without it costing me ~$1,000.

nulld3v 1 day ago||
I've also been dabbling in this recently in an attempt to avoid buying SodaStream syrups (which are on the BDS boycott list).

Tips for working on sugar-free recipes: In some countries (like Canada), soft-drink manufacturers are required to disclose the exact amount of each artificial sweetener they use in the drink. So you can easily grab those numbers from Canadian product listings for use in your own recipes. E.g. 355ml of Diet Coke contains 131 mg aspartame + 15mg ace-K.

Also, aspartame can be difficult/slow to dissolve. It dissolves better in solutions with a low pH and a warmer temperature.

eek2121 22 hours ago||
I Googled the BDS Boycott list at a glance...the top link (https://bdsmovement.net/Guide-to-BDS-Boycott) mentions a bunch of companies, including Sodastream. The immediate issue I see is that Sodastream is owned by PepsiCo, Inc. That immediately makes them complicit as well. PepsiCo was also facing a lawsuit regarding a partnership with Walmart for price fixing (https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2026/01/08/walmart-peps...) until the Trump administration threw it out (https://apnews.com/article/ftc-pepsico-trump-walmart-2cd8b42...).

I bring all this up to say that even if everyone boycotts sodastream, it won't do diddly to the actual folks responsible. I bet the same goes for others on that list. Boycotts also don't usually work in general. Most of the time it takes full on government intervention, lawsuits, etc. to change things.

nulld3v 21 hours ago|||
Boycotts definitely have their limitations, but the Sodastream boycott seems to have had some sort of effect: https://www.timesofisrael.com/victory-for-bds-as-sodastreams..., though whether the intended effect was achieved is debatable...
fakedang 18 hours ago||
"West Bank Industrial Zone" lol.

Call it for what it really is (not you, Times Of Israel). A factory inside an illegal West Bank settlement.

undersuit 21 hours ago||||
>Most of the time it takes full on government intervention, lawsuits, etc. to change things.

That's the S.

LightBug1 12 hours ago|||
We do what we can, where we can, when we can.

Personally, I find it's less about the act (although financially depriving companies of my cash does make me feel good), it's about the conversation the act starts.

And I've seen it work, or help. Some among us will remember the boycott of South African goods during Apartheid.

whackernews 14 hours ago|||
People are always so laser focussed on the latest trendy thing, but why not just boycott all huge corporations/organisations? It’s a much simpler rule that achieves the same thing and you have the added benefit of boycotting companies that haven’t had their corruption uncovered… yet!
LightBug1 12 hours ago|||
I find it more effective to say, I'm avoiding product X for Y reason.

This starts a conversation more effectively with contacts rather than go full large company avoidance which is difficult for people to imagine, let alone act on.

I sympathise with what you're saying though.

LightBug1 1 day ago|||
Well done for the BDS attempt ... had to get my Mum to return her Sodastream as she had no idea.

But I have to say, this whole thing is enough to turn me off soft drinks altogether.

Maybe that's the point?

Those bags full of crystals look like something out of Breaking Bad, lol, but I appreciate getting rid of the sugar and caffeine.

Some sparkling water and some cordials or dilutes has to be ~ better!

Thanks for the reminder to switch!

integralid 21 hours ago||
>BDS boycott list

Looks like a great initiative. Anyone knows about a similar list, but for companies that support Russia and occupation of Ukraine?

culi 20 hours ago|||
BDS has been around since 2005 and organizing on a global scale.

Russia is under heavy sanctions so I doubt there's much more regular consumers can do to boycott if they live in countries compliant with those sanctions.

But there's an app that's (unfortunately) named BoyCat that currently mainly works for BDS. You scan a product and it tells you if it's directly or indirectly tied to a product on the BDS list. I heard they are trying to expand functionality to allow anyone to make and organize around a list

https://www.boycat.io/

TBH this is an idea I've personally wanted to work on for a long time. I think the boycott is an underrated tool for social change and tools that can make it easier to organize around them can be a really powerful force for good

whackernews 14 hours ago|||
There’s a really simple way that will protect you from any current or future corruptions/profit before people behaviour: don’t buy anything from any large corporations.

If you do this you also benefit from giving your money to real people and not contributing to huge amounts of waste and pollution.

AdmiralAsshat 1 day ago||
Last time I tried this...it was alot easier to just buy the concentrate from Cube-Cola rather than trying to source all of the essential oils separately and shear them together.

https://cube-cola.org/

I think you'd end up paying less, too. I paid about 20 bucks for the concentrate bottle plus shipping, made 1.75L of it, thought it was fine but couldn't quite replace Coke in my diet, and didn't buy again. Had I done it all from scratch, I'm pretty sure I would've paid more and had a bunch of essential oil bottles leftover, going to waste.

toast0 1 day ago|
20 bucks for 1.75ml of cola seems like pretty bad value.
AdmiralAsshat 1 day ago||
To be clear, it made about 1.75L of syrup, not cola. I kept the cola syrup jug in a fridge for like a year, and when I wanted a glass of "cola" I'd add about an oz of the syrup concentrate to a glass of carbonated water (which I pre-carbonated with my DrinkMate), and stirred to combine.

I used like half the amount of sugar the cube-cola recipe recommended, because it seemed high. It wasn't Coke sweet but it was still plenty sweet for a soft drink, to my palette.

EDIT: Originally said 1.75 ml, meant to say Liters.

gryfft 1 day ago||||
An oz is ~29.57 ml (mililiters), so I think perhaps you meant that you made 1.7 l (liters)?
IanCal 1 day ago||||
Do you mean L? ml to me would be millilitres and one fluid ounce is ~30ml.
AdmiralAsshat 1 day ago||
Yes, typo on my side. Thanks for catching!
pizzafeelsright 7 hours ago||
This is why normal folk use quarts and gallons so there is no confusion. An mg vs ng of astrophage is deadly.
bsder 22 hours ago|||
How is the cleanup with DrinkMate? Washing everything was my primary problem with SodaStream.
AdmiralAsshat 9 hours ago||
Not hard? I mean you need a dedicated bottle brush, but the bottle itself is the only thing I recall having to clean. The DrinkMate advertises itself as being able to carbonate other things (juice, flat soda, etc.), but I never carbonate anything other than water in the bottle, then add my syrups only after decanting. It prevents the bottle from getting sticky.
s0rce 1 day ago||
I liked this video about recreating coke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDkH3EbWTYc&t=176s
SideburnsOfDoom 14 hours ago|
Yes, this video (and HN commentary https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46543509 ) are an amazing nerdy deep dive into a taste chemistry subject. And seems to have uncovered new information (to the general public that is, maybe not new to Cola co insiders)

You know it's getting serious when they science it, using a mass spectrometer. And then keep at it for a year through many experiments that did not produce a result. That attitude of "the experiment didn't fail, it successfully eliminated one of the possibilities" is very scientific.

malfist 1 day ago||
There's a great book about this if you're interested. Half history lesson half recipes. Check out: Fix the Pumps (which the book tells you is old soda fountain slag for check out a woman's breasts)
kfk 7 hours ago||
Can you make chinotto?
juvvel 9 hours ago||
Ah, good old Dragonspice.de, they have provided me with supplies for many of my experiments as well. I have many of the essential oils already, I might try this! Thank you for posting your recipe.
benjaminoakes 7 hours ago||
I love this idea. However, I found the article difficult to read because the images are far too large in terms of file size.
koolba 20 hours ago|
> Made a second batch of cola syrup without caramel color. It’s much weirder to drink than I expected.

Indeed the 90s were an interesting time: https://youtu.be/2za2IK8FQoM

rconti 16 hours ago||
I wonder if we'd have the same reaction if cola had never been darkened. We wouldn't, right?
acomjean 17 hours ago||
I thought of those. I remember drinking some. It tastes like cola but somehow different.

But then again I liked new coke. And that wierd “ok soda” that doesn’t exist anymore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_Soda

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