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Posted by jsomers 3 days ago

The paper computer(jsomers.net)
265 points | 85 commentspage 4
marttt 6 hours ago|
See also -- The Screenless Office: http://screenl.es/

(On HN 2017, 138 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15960056)

chaidhat 5 hours ago||
cool idea
bitwize 20 hours ago||
Thought this was gonna be about CARDIAC, lol.

Emacs, and technologies built on it, such as org-mode, come somewhat close to ideas expressed here by having plain text in a buffer be the unifying data format. You can organize stuff by just moving snippets of text around.

I think it's difficult in practice to design data manipulation interfaces based on real-world objects because atoms are heavy and bits are not. Data is just much more malleable and transformable than real world objects, at least at the pre-Diamond Age tech level we're at. But maybe ML will help make this easier by allowing computers to track and scan the objects more easily.

musicale 19 hours ago|
https://www.instructables.com/CARDIAC-CARDboard-Illustrative...

Although the cardboard implementation is kind of the point, I think it's cool that someone made an FPGA version (dead link though, RIP drdobbs.com).

booleandilemma 21 hours ago||
If I understand this correctly, you're talking about using paper as a computing interface? That's such a neat idea!
jsomers 20 hours ago|
Yeah, and it's really worth checking out https://dynamicland.org/, because Bret Victor is actually doing this -- slash pointing the way to what such a world could look like. It just seems like now might be a good time for specific smaller parts of that vision to be carved off and developed further. I say that largely because of the advances in multimodal AI, which maybe haven't been fully applied yet in this area.
smj-edison 20 hours ago||
And a shout-out to https://folk.computer/ as well! They're not as far along in terms of feature parity, but they are open source, and exploring the space in other directions.
kruffalon 16 hours ago||
If you have any ins with this project would you mind asking them to add a line or 2 describing what it is about, or even a linked text in the start.txt file?

Just a simple:

> Folk Computer is a research & art project centered around designing new physical computing interfaces.

From ./notes/tableshots.txt with a link towards the top would imo be quite helpful.

(Sorry, this is just one of my pet peeves: needing to know what a project is about before being able to read about it is just terrible UX, although extremely common as we as humans tend to forget that we know things others don't)

smj-edison 10 hours ago||
Thanks! I can pass it on. Would you say then that having an overview on the main page, with links for more details would be a better approach?
kruffalon 8 hours ago||
I would say that simply expanding the first word of "hello -" into:

> Hello, Folk Computer is a research & art project centered around designing new physical computing interfaces. [read more](./notes/tableshots.txt)

Is more than sufficient, most of the website is for people who already know about the project. I'm just asking for a small part at the beginning for us who are new :)

heliumtera 11 hours ago||
The fact the paper is only an interface and you're not depending any less on a computer, doesn't bother you at all?
anthk 17 hours ago||
https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/paper_computer.html

Also, check the spirograph too, among the slide ruler and any abacus.

fragmede 17 hours ago||
The problem with screens is you can't get good at them, even after 18 years of them. Not like you could a sewing machine, a stick shift car, or a loom.
Gerargus 3 hours ago||
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