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Posted by t-3 8 hours ago

US appeals court declares 158-year-old home distilling ban unconstitutional(nypost.com)
263 points | 191 commentspage 2
NoSalt 4 hours ago|
I had no idea this was even a law!!! Where do I turn myself in?
mothballed 6 hours ago||
The post '86 machine gun ban relies on basically the exact principle overturned here.
EgregiousCube 5 hours ago||
Yes, it'd be interesting if this gets appealed and the SC gets to take a look at if $0 tax stamps are allowable under the tax and spending clause.
wellthisisgreat 2 hours ago|||
Yeah, moonshine is ok but Tommy Gun isn’t? It’s roaring twenties y’all!
esseph 5 hours ago||
Tally ho!
shevy-java 2 hours ago||
Have a beer for that news!
lenerdenator 6 hours ago||
It'll be interesting to see how many people get methanol poisoning from trying their hand at it without doing the research properly. That being said, so long as it's for private or non-profit use, I don't really see the harm here.
jotux 4 hours ago||
>It'll be interesting to see how many people get methanol poisoning from trying their hand at it without doing the research properly.

If you're into home brewing or distilling, the first and only comment people completely unfamiliar with the process say is something about going blind because of methanol. It's disappointing because the process is so rich with history and really interesting problems to solve but the zeitgeist is completely poisoned by prohibition-era propaganda.

OkayPhysicist 5 hours ago|||
Unless they try to make booze from woodchips, they'll be fine. Using fruit or grains or potatoes makes it really hard to end up with enough methanol to be dangerous.
amanaplanacanal 5 hours ago|||
Probably none. Unless someone is intentionally adding methanol to it.
FergusArgyll 4 hours ago||
I dunno, I tried making some myself when I was quite young and I can still see. Don't know what I did wrong / right...
ChrisArchitect 6 hours ago||
[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47736298
caycep 5 hours ago||
how...uh...explosive...are home stills?
Tangurena2 3 hours ago||
They're a significant fire hazard which is why ATF regulations for stills require them to be located at least 100 feet from a residence.

I live in a city with 2 distilleries. You can smell when they're dealing with the mash because everyone in town can smell it. Also, we all get some black mold (not the really bad one) all over our siding which I think is some byproduct of the fermentation step.

My father worked in the oil business. As a chemical engineer, he was brewing his own moonshine (Poitín [pronounced 'poh-cheen'] in Ireland, Sidiki [means 'friend'] in Arabic language countries) since he was in university. In Saudi Arabia, there were frequent home fires in the western-expatriate communities. Newspapers reported them as "unattended cooking pot" fires. It happened several times per year in the Ras Tanura community they last lived in.

beedeebeedee 3 hours ago|||
Thanks for sharing your comment. I was skeptical about your claim that black mold would be a consequence of living near a distillery, but in fact, it is. It is called Whiskey Fungus and is related to the aging of the spirits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudoinia

Tangurena2 3 hours ago||
Yep, that's it. They all look the same with a human eyeball. Or I need better eye glasses.

> The fungus can be removed from buildings using high pressure water jets, bleach, etc. According to a report from the Kentucky government, it has not been shown to cause anything other than cosmetic effects thanks to its mode of nutrition via the carboniferous atmosphere, rather than the decay of building materials in general.

It reaches higher up the siding than I can reach with household cleaners. It makes the house look dirty. Which I really don't care about, since most folks in the neighborhood have the same schmutz on their homes. It doesn't seem to like cement, so sidewalks & foundations aren't affected (that I can see).

cs02rm0 2 hours ago|||
Crikey. My dad (and just about every other westerner) used to brew sid down the road in Dhahran, I never heard of fires from it.
mynameisash 4 hours ago|||
I would say: not explosive. I've seen a decent number of setups, and I can think of three areas where you could be concerned with safety (not necessarily where you should be):

1. Most use propane burners (the exact thing you'd use for homebrewing which is already legal and safe, and also similar to what some large turkey fryers use) which can be risky, but some are electric (120v or 240v).

2. Stills are an open system insofar as there is a way for pressure to escape - if you're goofing things up, you might vaporize and not recondense your ethanol (eg, because you have the heat way too high and/or aren't doing a good job of cooling down the vapors), and it's possible for that vapor to start on fire. I've seen it happen, and it's certainly a spectacle but wasn't particularly dangerous.

3. The distillate itself (ie, ethanol) is usually pretty potent, especially the foreshots and heads. Let's say 70%+. Especially as it's coming out, it's still prone to evaporation, and you could have a combustible/explosive risk here, but I've never seen this to be an actual problem.

ravenstine 4 hours ago|||
Not explosive, but still a potential fire hazard, especially if a still gets way too hot (coolant system fails) and alcohol vapors escape. The risk becomes extremely minimal when using an electric still.
jerrysievert 4 hours ago|||
they're really not. they're generally not a pressure vessel, and even when I've had leaks of ethanol, the fire went out immediately after being removed from heat.

today's home stills are usually plug-in resistance heated chambers with a still head, and are very high quality. my flame-out was from a pot still that was sealed with flour and water, not a modern still.

dylan604 5 hours ago||
less than a meth lab
user20180120 6 hours ago||
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gigatexal 6 hours ago|
Big beer head Kavanaugh and Kegseth are probably jumping for joy.
seanw444 4 hours ago||
A win against the over-application of the interstate commerce clause that benefits everybody! Quick, how can we make this partisan?
BenjiWiebe 3 hours ago||
Doesn't apply to beer anyways.