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Posted by rrreese 20 hours ago

Backblaze has stopped backing up OneDrive and Dropbox folders and maybe others(rareese.com)
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herf 11 hours ago|
Both Dropbox and OneDrive default to "online first" for most users (including Dropbox on macOS which has moved itself into File Provider). It is a technically sound and sane default for Backblaze to ignore these mounts, especially given their policy not to backup network drives. They really should have informed legacy users about it.

Technically speaking, imagine you're iterating over a million files, and some of them are 1000x slower than the others, it's not Backblaze's fault that things have gone this way. Avoiding files that are well-known network mount points is likely necessary for them to be reliable at what they do for local files.

It's important to recognize that these new OS-level filesystem hooks are slow and inefficient - the use case is opening one file and not 10,000 - and this means that things you might want to do (like recursive grep) are now unworkably slow if they don't fit in some warmed-up cache on your device.

To fix it, Backblaze would need a "cloud to cloud" backup that is optimized for that access pattern, or a checkbox (or detection system) for people who manage to keep a full local mirror in a place where regular files are fast. This is rapidly becoming a less common situation. I do, however, think that they should have informed people about the change.

calmbonsai 12 hours ago||
WJW. This sort of blanket policy change should be called-out in ALL CAPS, bold-faced, and underlined as it changes one of the implicit assumptions with the service's execution.

The technical and performance implications of backing-up cloud mount-points are real, but that's zero excuse for the way this change was communicated.

This is a royal screw-up in corporate communications and I would not be surprised if it makes a huge negative impact in their bottom line and results in a few terminations.

fluxusars 12 hours ago||
I dropped them when they silently dropped support for veracrypt/truecrypt drives: https://old.reddit.com/r/backblaze/comments/1ol0pgf/backblaz...

They're really proving lately that they are a company that can't be trusted with your data.

mlmonkey 12 hours ago||
I would love to see a summary of all of the various options being bandied about.

There are 2 components in my mind: the backup "agent" (what runs on your laptop/desktop/server) and the storage provider (which BB is in this context).

What do people recommend for the agent? (I understand some storage providers have their own agents) For Linux/MacOS/Windows.

What do people recommend for the storage provider? Let's assume there are 1TB of files to be backed up. 99.9% don't change frequently.

domador 4 hours ago||
I was similarly upset and also dropped Carbonite over 15 years ago over something along these lines. Backup services should be agnostic about the data they back up for their customers.
mcast 14 hours ago||
I've been very content moving away from OneDrive/GDrive to a personal NAS setup with Synology/Ugreen. You can access a shared drive/photo drive and use Tailscale to mount your volume from anywhere.

I've also configured encrypted cloud backups to a different geographic region and off-site backups to a friend's NAS (following the 3-2-1 backup rule). It does help having 2.5Gb networking as well, but owning your data is more important in the coming age of sloppy/degrading infrastructure and ransomware attacks.

decadefade 14 hours ago||
This is why I use Arq with Backblaze. They just see a bunch of encrypted files with random GUID filenames. They don't need to know what I'm backing up, just that I am backing it up.
Terr_ 20 hours ago||
I feel that's a systemic problem with all consumer online-backup software: They often use the barest excuse to not back things up. At best, it's to show a fast progress bar to the average user, and at worst it's to quietly renege on the "unlimited" capacity they promised when they took your money. [1]

Trying to audit—let alone change—the finer details is a pain even for power users, and there's a non-zero risk the GUI is simply lying to everybody while undocumented rules override what you specified.

When I finally switched my default boot to Linux, I found many of those offerings didn't support it, so I wrote some systemd services around Restic + Backblaze B2. It's been a real breath of fresh air: I can tell what's going on, I can set my own snapshot retention rules, and it's an order of magnitude cheaper. [2]

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[1] Along the lines of "We have your My Documents. Oh, you didn't manually add My Videos or My Music for every user? Too bad." Or in some cases, certain big-file extensions are on the ignore list by default for no discernible reason.

[2] Currently a dollar or two a month for ~200gb. It doesn't change very much, and data verification jobs redownload the total amount once a month. I don't backn up anything I could get from elsewhere, like Steam games. Family videos are in the care of different relatives, but I'm looking into changing that.

aitchnyu 20 hours ago||
Umm, why didnt you find a GUI manager like Vorta (this one is Borg exclusive IIRC)?
Terr_ 19 hours ago||
With restic I don't need some kind of special server daemon on the other end, I can point my backup destination to any mountable filesystem, or relatively dumb "bucket" stores like S3 or B2. I like having the sense of options and avoiding lock-in. [1]

As for GUIs in general... Well, like I said, I just finished several years of bad experiences with some proprietary ones, and I wanted to see and choose what was really going on.

At this point, I don't think I'd ever want a GUI beyond a basic status-reporting widget. It's not like I need to regularly micromanage the folder-set, especially when nobody else is going to tweak it by surprise.

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[1] The downside to the dumb-store is a ransomware scenario, where the malware is smart enough to go delete my old snapshots using the same connection/credentials. Enforcing retention policies on the server side necessarily needs a smarter server. B2 might actually have something useful there, but I haven't dug into it.

rrreese 20 hours ago||
Yes, you're exactly right. Once they decide not to exclude certain filetypes it puts the burden on the endusers who are unequipped to monitor these changes.
vsl 12 hours ago||
Dropped Backblaze over this when I learned about it in December (https://mjtsai.com/blog/2025/12/19/backblaze-no-longer-backs...) and went to Arq. Not as polished, especially on Windows, but works and is actually cheaper.
simon_bitwise 11 hours ago|
Yeah this is the core problem with how most backup tools handle Dropbox / iCloud / OneDrive now. Those folders aren’t really “normal files” anymore — a lot of the time they’re just placeholders, and touching them can trigger downloads or other weird behavior depending on the client. That said, just skipping the entire folder is kind of the worst possible outcome. Backup should be predictable. If something is on disk, it should get backed up. If it’s not, you should at least know that, not find out later when you need it. I’ve been working on Duplicati (https://github.com/duplicati/duplicati) and one thing we’ve tried to be careful about is not silently ignoring data. If something can’t be backed up, it should be visible to the user.

Feel free to reach out to me if you have any questions about setting up duplicati.

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