Posted by akyuu 9 hours ago
So half the internet goes down, but pirates just.. Don't use cloudflare anymore.. Or use a proxy... Or use tor...
These policies cause nothing but collateral damage, and now apparently they've decided to cause some more of it!
Good job Spain.
Forcing piracy consumers to use Tor or other proxies is unlikely to be popular. They’ll still be used, for sure, but so long as CF makes pirated content easily accessible over the Internet, this is just going to keep happening. It’s just too damned convenient.
I don’t believe CF is going to win here, long term. If Spain and other countries block their ASNs, enough of their legitimate paying customers may start abandoning ship, and CF will have to get serious about unplugging notorious proxy configurations for piracy origin servers.
I also don't support these organizations that destroy the sports that people love, force you to subscribe to different services as each game and "liga" has made their own deals to make as much money as possible. Until we remove the stupid amount of money that is involved in these sport events nothing will change. And now they are talking about other events like movies, series and live entertainment show. Hopefully they come for the VPNs next and break every business VPN tunnel whenever they want. Hopefully that will cause enough backlash that they finally fix this BS once and for all.
And every time they are sued for facilitating piracy, instead of letting the case to proceed to trial, they settle out of court.
https://www.cloudflare.com/trust-hub/abuse-approach/
Other than that, the legal situation on Spain is pretty dire for LaLiga. The Supreme Court already ruled in Spain that, as per the current writing of the law, football transmissions are _not_ works subject to copyright as they're not works of "art, literature and science": https://www.poderjudicial.es/cgpj/ca/Poder-Judicial/Tribunal...
So it's likely that, if LaLiga sued Cloudflare or they made them party on any actual litigation, Cloudflare would defend themselves and possibly win. Therefore... they just don't sue them, only sue ISPs that have an incentive to just comply to any LaLiga request (as.. legal compliance and collaboration is one of the requirements for being able to buy rights to LaLiga matches in Spain. Yeah, no kidding, you can look it up in their public documentation).
Well, I lie. In a legal twist, they ended up suing Cloudflare for "participation in criminal activities", but not through the same avenue they sued the ISPs on (penal vs commerce court), with some interesting twists as accusations of "facilitating services to avoid the execution of a court order" - which doesn't make a lot of sense, as they're not even direct parties to that court order and they were denied taking part on it. https://okdiario.com/economia/empresas/justicia-imputa-ceo-c...
Correction: they use the pirate excuse to make life of clients choosing competitors (like cloudflare) impossible. There is an overlap between some Cloudflare and Telefónica services.
And the blast radius often is the entire devstack. Last weekend they blocked Cloudflare and GitHub simultaneously.
When I watch an American movie, I want to hear it the way the director intended it to be. I don't want every villain in every movie have the same voice. If I want to hear Dutch in a movie, I watch a Dutch movie. It's not that deep.
The fact that it helps kids learn a different language is a very nice fringe benefit.
I remember watching an English movie with an incorrect subtitle in school when I was 12, well before my first English class. The whole auditorium laughed because everyone caught the error.
Sounds like your problem is with crappy, cheap dubbing, not dubbing in general.
Look at Disney animation for dubbing done right (and more so in the 20th century - these days I’m not so sure).
Though for you, I understand you might have been peeved if people kept switching to English when you just wanted to practice Dutch.
It is a massive disadvantage. It means that we’re always late with new stuff because the Dutch market is so small no one wants to make the effort of building Dutch versions.
The place read as Shang-hai in Mandarin is apparently read Zan-he in the local "dialect" spoken there. I think one could say Koln and Cologne sound closer together.
I don't think as many did 20 years ago, but China is consciously Mandarinizing, and English has lost its spot as the standard second language with the vastly increasing hostility from the West.
Countries make no sense to me. Look at the current situation in Iran. Everyone on the planet is affected by the actions of a president we didn’t vote for. Earth should be a single country.
I also want one big world for all but definitely not a single culture or language
And you missed the part I said about how different human concepts don't exist in all languages, do we just not have those? Language is an integral part of different cultures, not the only one, but a pretty big one. Can't believe I'm having to defend this.
Lots of countries would disagree with this. Do you not think Peru and Spain has distinct cultures for example? Why/why not?
Go out and pay attention to your surroundings. Read everything. Make dutch friends. Spend some time outside the large cities.
Dutch is already like half English just spelled and pronounced way differently.
Being objective, both sides of the pond have produced many shitty Spanish dubs and some good ones, and unless there's too much difference for a given series we all just prefer our native dub.
But dubbed live action media is such a horrid experience for me.
So you were already reading. What about younger children?
That said - I fully agree, I’m surprised I don’t speak with a Star Trek accent given where I had most of my early exposure to English.
My experience has been the opposite :) but hey.
There's no reason not to be dubbing cartoons for kids. That's a dorky debate for grown-ass adults playing animu purists.
Every now and then we go out to watch some of the finals for the national (Spanish) team, and the audience most of the time lean young still today in 2026, although of course it's very mixed more depending on the bar/restaurant you go to rather than the football itself. Even if the subscription prices are expensive today, affording 4 EUR for two beers during a game in a bar is affordable even to teenagers.
‘Rotten’ isn’t a strong enough insult.
Please do. I want to see the result on the GDP.